If they wanted to they could do it as easily as they did with Venezuela. It's closer than Venezuela and the same ties. The only difference is the oil reserves.
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Rorschach
Fanny Walden
No it doesn’t.
This move is explicitly outlined in the 2025 project. It's the oil.
MartyFunkhouser
Willie Hall
Trumps the biggest Russia cuck out there
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
Yes it is the long game, just not that one.
That statement is almost word-for-word the same argument Russia has made for years about NATO missiles near its borders. Funny how security fears are exclusive to the West ^^
The "close ties" are primarily political and economical, Venezuela is in no way a direct threat to the USA or The West at all. To pretend this move is only about security or democracy really ignores the true motives behind it.
MartyFunkhouser
Willie Hall
Isn't there an Epstein doj deadline on the horizon
The US tried regime change in Cuba for years.
Since the missile crisis, the US has had an agreement with Russia that Cuba doesn't store nukes if the US doesn't attack.
It's clearly the best decision for everyone that the US doesn't attack.
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And jet fuel doesn't melt steel, right?
That's good news. I'll look forward to the Russian munitions factories completing their first batch of cuddly unicorn toys any day now.
Almost as much as I'll look forward to those Iranian drones being used for a Pride display.
Daisuk
Chris Jones
I thought the republicans hated to spend money on war - and now the US is going into Venezuela, Cuba no doubt next, and possibly even Greenland. They wouldn't really mean full scale war, of course, but who knows what the political pushback could mean for them? I guess it doesn't matter when you connect those greedy dirty oil pipes down to the ones in Caracas though.
Maduro was a dingdong, but we all know how this goes. You fire an Ange and get a Frank and so on.
Maduro was a dingdong, but we all know how this goes. You fire an Ange and get a Frank and so on.
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
Is this an oblique reference to conspiracy theories? They are not hiding their intentions. They like to blurt it out.
Imperialism for resources is the American story. This is just the latest version of it. However the dipbricks who decided this was a good move are not the brightest. Considering the dropping price of renewables I'm not sure this makes much strategic sense either.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The last point is especially pertinent. By the time they get the oil fields operational, the rest of the world will no longer be using it and the prices will be crashing
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
Indeed. Battery prices dropped about 40% in 2024 meaning when paired with solar it became the cheapest form of dispatchable power in some markets. Prices are predicted to drop by something similar last year. This race is already over.
Do you genuinely think the US would have invaded Venezuela if they were a Western democracy with friendly ties to the US?
I love the wishful thinking about oil not being required but unfortunately, the world doesn't run on nice ideas and unicorn brick.
MartyFunkhouser
Willie Hall
My old man is making an abundance of savings on his, the dementia means I see the meter readings more than I need to haha, but he is proud.
Best thing he did for his place, whist others are screaming at the clouds about being Chem Trails
Like Russia is going to be able to do anything if US attack...
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
It didn't invade Venezuela. At least not yet. Do you honestly believe this has nothing to do with oil reserves?
For someone who sees everything through the lens of money you seem rather shortsighted on the economics of renewables.
There's splintering amongst the Republicans now with some turning on Trump. Plenty are giving out that there's too much focus on other parts of the world and not enough focus on issues at home, especially the economy.
If they were a western democracy that gave access to their oil then no. There are plenty of other regimes in the world that are just as bad as Venezuela, the only thing different here is oil. They're such a threat that the US can just walk in, capture their president and walk back out in the space of a few hours.