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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
It’s completely different
Not getting too full before sport is a different ball game to not eating since say 8pm the previous night then running up and down ladders with 10kg of bricks on your shoulder all morning!
Simply put, I do the basic intermittent fasting (8pm last food, 1pm following day next food)as I’ve said, but if at the weekend I have something a bit manual to do around the house in the morning and I’ve not eaten then I’m shaking by an hour in.
I don't get that. I'll just eat 6:30pm ish every day and have energy and stamina to do as much/more than I ever did, at any time of day, than on 2 or 3 meals.
It's not easy explaining simple concepts to those who cannot/will not understand.
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Depends on the timing. Not eating between 8 and 4 is ok. Not eating between dawn and dusk in the summer can be dangerous.
Just like is someone comes in after a night out, I'd assess how capable they are of working safely. If they told me on a Tuesday they would be out drinking until 4am that night, I'd have them take the Wednesday off.
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
How do you police it? Seems impossible to do TBH, random blood sugar tests?
Well with Ramadan, it's obvious because people tell you they're going to do it. In the summer months, it can be dangerous - even the likes of Croner and Make UK have legal experts that will back you on that.
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
My point being, you can say you are not going to do it and no, and you would never know. People can say they are taking their lunch outside so unless you are running a state styled sweet shop then its got to be impossible to police
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monkeybarry
Les Medley
You've circumnavigated my question - unsurprisingly.
What is the action taken if someone choses not to eat or drink at work?
It's a very simple question. No added context to aid narrative (no performance issue, no arbitrary "timing" issue), purely X employee chooses not to eat or drink during their shift. What action do you take and on what basis?
monkeybarry
Les Medley
......... Hmmmmm, it wouldn't be a shock
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Or you cannot explain it. Which is what you've done here.
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
Did they sign the declarations before they started their shift? "My intentions to eat today are................"
monkeybarry
Les Medley
It is....if the concept is sound
richie_spur
Danny Murphy
Do you reckon they lose a percentage of pay if the are on a diet as well?
How about the flip of this - Bonuses for additional food eaten? Gives Bargain Bucket a new meaning I suppose?!
Glenda's Legs
Ian Walker
Maybe I have this wrong but I thought you were the CFO. Are you the owner of the company?
I remember you saying there was no HR department because it was a small company and senior management covered everything themselves. But you have factories in the UK and abroad so not that small?
If you are setting company policy based on what people say that sounds very dodgy. No HR personnel worth their salt would go along with that. All a bit confusing.
ricky2tricky4city
Luka Modric
I don't think Scara sets company policy based on 'what people say'...don't be silly....
Everything is going to be set on what 'he says'.
SteveAWOL
Les Howe
Silly McSilly Face
Allan Nielsen
Th
Propaganda is pumped out by both sides and what it does is boil blood and dehumanise the other side and perpetuate conflict.
Now I don't doubt that sh*t like this goes on. But it is turned into propaganda. It perpetuates the never ending cycle i myself get with my twin daughters:
"Why did you do that to your sister?"
"She did it to me first!"
"Why did you do it to her?"
"She hit me"
"Why did you hit her?"
"She hit me first!"
"Why did you hit her?"
"She scratches my arm"
"Why did you scratch her arm?"
"She pulled my hair"
"Why did you pull her hair?"
"I can't remember".
Bottom line is the conduct of both sides both Israel and Palestinian are very far from the conduct of civilised human beings when it comes to each other and justification for their actions is a never-ending recycling of past-greviences and propaganda pushed out to their supporters locally and globally.
I have a problem with this sort of stuff as fundamentally its propaganda. Its a known technique in warfare. Just look at some of the cinema reels played in British cinemas about Germans in WW2. Ironically, they were made before the existence of nazi death camps and the extent of the holocaust became known.
Propaganda is pumped out by both sides and what it does is boil blood and dehumanise the other side and perpetuate conflict.
Now I don't doubt that sh*t like this goes on. But it is turned into propaganda. It perpetuates the never ending cycle i myself get with my twin daughters:
"Why did you do that to your sister?"
"She did it to me first!"
"Why did you do it to her?"
"She hit me"
"Why did you hit her?"
"She hit me first!"
"Why did you hit her?"
"She scratches my arm"
"Why did you scratch her arm?"
"She pulled my hair"
"Why did you pull her hair?"
"I can't remember".
Bottom line is the conduct of both sides both Israel and Palestinian are very far from the conduct of civilised human beings when it comes to each other and justification for their actions is a never-ending recycling of past-greviences and propaganda pushed out to their supporters locally and globally.
glorygloryeze
Les Medley
I think it can be said that this is a little smidgen of a push-back in narrative/PR terms against the Juggernaut of the Marketing/PR employed by the Israeli state and the IDF (who have only recently had their often repeated motto of being "the world's most moral army" being shown as pure bunkum), which has to be noted is also backed by a large part of Western Media and Political circles.
The irony of the above is that it shows how hypocritical Israel/IDF are in terms of their accusations that Hamas 'hide amongst civilians' and 'use human shields' which has been what has been given as the reasons why they bomb the hell out of a lot of civilian centres and infrastructure within Gaza.
obviously anyone with a functioning brain knows what they've really been doing and their motivations, but still anything that erases those officially stated reasons for the civilian casualties is a good thing (imo)
Silly McSilly Face
Allan Nielsen
But it doesnt erase the officially stated reason for civilian casualties or the fact that there are no "civilian" and "non-civilian" Palestinians. There isnt a Palestinian army. There are Palestinians that choose to pick up an AK47 or RPG and start firing and there are those that don't. And they're indistinguishable in the most part from each other, hence the invasion turning into a blood bath. You can have the most model/trained army in the world, you put them in a sh*t show like that and the sh*t is gonna sh*w - see also US troops in Vietnam, and including our own in N. Ireland, Afghanistan etc.
I like reading stuff by the likes of Andy McNab. As a 17/18 year old on his first deployment in NI he was confronted by a young lad his age coming out of a building aggressively moving towards his patrol. The guy just looks like a normal kid. He had a split second to decide what to do....that was his first "kill".
glorygloryeze
Les Medley
Sorry, but that's a bs excuse. Israel have enough control of the are and access to enough technology and weaponry not to have to do what they've been doing. What they've been doing has been deliberately genocidal and cannot be compared to what happened over those decades in NI (if it did, the number of Catholics in NI would barely be 10% of the population now)