Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
So why hasn't he been able to recreate anything of that since Suarez left?
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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying
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glasgowspur
Nayim
Just to be clear, I'm in no way defending Brendon. He failed, end of.
It's wrong in a lot of cases that the manager gets a pay, but not all of them. In his case it's wrong.
It's wrong in a lot of cases that the manager gets a pay, but not all of them. In his case it's wrong.
glasgowspur
Nayim
Anyone else think it's unfair that advocaat is being reported as sack when actually he stood aside and by all accounts was denied funds, and left with no pay off. Yet Brendon is being reported much more favourably?
Last season he went on a run once he sorted the team out a bit where they won 10/11 games on the trot and they looked really good. Don't forget both is first choice strikers were missing last year which played a big part. He also re-invested the money poorly which upset the squad, Sterling had 2nd season syndrome which again happens a lot.
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indianspur
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" we all live in a Robbie Fowler house"......is Robbie offering Klopp some cheap accommodation in one of his many buy to let portfolio properties in Toxteth?
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indianspur
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interesting article on a bloke called Michael Edwards, head of technical performance at Liverpool who also worked at Pompey and Spurs alongside Redknapp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-laptop-guru-did-number-Brendan-Rodgers.html
Each morning, when Liverpool's principal owner John W Henry and director Michael Gordon wake up in Boston, their inboxes ping with emails from the club's head of technical performance.
Michael Edwards, who is based at Liverpool's Melwood training ground, has become FSG's go-to guy in England after aligning himself with the data-driven model of the group's baseball team, the Boston Red Sox.
This cosy relationship with FSG, dropping the owners emails throughout the day and increasing his power at the club, led to a strained relationship with former manager Brendan Rodgers.
Edwards encourages staff to use his nickname 'Eddie', giving a matey feel to the working environment. It is understood Rodgers has another name for him.
Edwards fell perfectly into place with FSG's Moneyball strategy, the statistical model designed to extract maximum value in the transfer market. Clearly, with the club 10th in the league and paying up to three times the going rate for players, it needs refinement.
Despite a lack of playing experience at any relevant level, Edwards, who earns £300,000 a year, has a big say on Liverpool's notorious transfer committee. He would arrive for meetings with Rodgers, managing director Ian Ayre, chief scout Barry Hunter and head of recruitment Dave Fallows armed with the latest data on potential targets.
The committee have yet to explain how they came up with the figure of £29million to sign Brazilian forward Roberto Firmino from Hoffenheim, who finished eighth in the Bundesliga last season.
Divock Origi, billed as 'a world-class talent' by Rodgers when he was signed from Lille, could not even come off the bench in the club's last two league games. There are countless other errors.
After each Liverpool game Edwards emails analysis and data to the club's owners in America, detailing where the match was won and lost. It has made for grim reading this season.
Edwards has used his relationship with FSG to strengthen his hand at the club, becoming a trusted source of information to a group of people who are obsessed with statistical analysis.
There is a relationship with Bill James, the American stats guru who is employed by the Red Sox to provide Henry and Gordon with data for their baseball team.
Edwards can tap away at a laptop and within seconds tell you how many assists the 24-year-old Turkish left back Eren Albayrak has made for Rizespor this season (four).
Edwards and his team of analysts have invented a new language for football. Strikers are all about goal expectancy, chances created and the percentage of successful passes in the final third. Old-school managers just want to know if the boy can put the ball in the net. Defensive midfielders are judged on interceptions and the number of challenges won in the centre of the pitch.
The increasing influence of analysts, young men who have no experience of scouting or recruiting players, has meant the end of the road for good football men such as Mel Johnson. He was the scout who recommended Liverpool sign talented young winger Jordon Ibe from Wycombe but was sacked, shamefully, in November 2014. Former academy director Frank McParland has also left.
Instead a new breed sits in air-conditioned offices, cutting up videos from matches all over the world and burying their heads in the stats. Edwards, along with his vast team of analysts, constantly monitors the opposition, providing detail about playing positions, style, routines, set-pieces and other important matchday information.
They profile players based on their last 10-20 appearances, gathering information and helping Rodgers build a presentation for his players before matches that was usually a maximum of 10 pages on each team. It is a useful, but far from infallible, tool.
Edwards, who is in his late thirties, began his career as part of the video analysis team at Portsmouth before leaving to work with Harry Redknapp again when he became Tottenham manager.
There, Edwards struck up a relationship with Ian Graham at Decision Technology, a data firm collecting statistics on players from all over the world.
Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy paid Decision Technology a fortune each season for their services, trusting their analysis and using Edwards, in his newly created role as head of performance analysis, to make sense of it all.
Edwards was head-hunted by Damien Comolli when the Frenchman became director of football at Liverpool, turning down an increased salary of £250,000 a year at White Hart Lane to join the Anfield revolution. Levy was distraught.
Since then he has emerged as a senior figure at Liverpool, empowered by FSG to make the call on big transfer targets after gaining their trust since his arrival in 2011.
His relationship with Rodgers deteriorated shortly after the former Liverpool manager signed a contract worth £6m a year just a week after Liverpool finished within two points of claiming the Barclays Premier League title.
They clashed over transfer strategy, although Rodgers went on record to insist that he always had the final say over the recruitment of players earmarked for the first-team squad.
In the end, Edwards had his number.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-laptop-guru-did-number-Brendan-Rodgers.html
Each morning, when Liverpool's principal owner John W Henry and director Michael Gordon wake up in Boston, their inboxes ping with emails from the club's head of technical performance.
Michael Edwards, who is based at Liverpool's Melwood training ground, has become FSG's go-to guy in England after aligning himself with the data-driven model of the group's baseball team, the Boston Red Sox.
This cosy relationship with FSG, dropping the owners emails throughout the day and increasing his power at the club, led to a strained relationship with former manager Brendan Rodgers.
Edwards encourages staff to use his nickname 'Eddie', giving a matey feel to the working environment. It is understood Rodgers has another name for him.
Edwards fell perfectly into place with FSG's Moneyball strategy, the statistical model designed to extract maximum value in the transfer market. Clearly, with the club 10th in the league and paying up to three times the going rate for players, it needs refinement.
Despite a lack of playing experience at any relevant level, Edwards, who earns £300,000 a year, has a big say on Liverpool's notorious transfer committee. He would arrive for meetings with Rodgers, managing director Ian Ayre, chief scout Barry Hunter and head of recruitment Dave Fallows armed with the latest data on potential targets.
The committee have yet to explain how they came up with the figure of £29million to sign Brazilian forward Roberto Firmino from Hoffenheim, who finished eighth in the Bundesliga last season.
Divock Origi, billed as 'a world-class talent' by Rodgers when he was signed from Lille, could not even come off the bench in the club's last two league games. There are countless other errors.
After each Liverpool game Edwards emails analysis and data to the club's owners in America, detailing where the match was won and lost. It has made for grim reading this season.
Edwards has used his relationship with FSG to strengthen his hand at the club, becoming a trusted source of information to a group of people who are obsessed with statistical analysis.
There is a relationship with Bill James, the American stats guru who is employed by the Red Sox to provide Henry and Gordon with data for their baseball team.
Edwards can tap away at a laptop and within seconds tell you how many assists the 24-year-old Turkish left back Eren Albayrak has made for Rizespor this season (four).
Edwards and his team of analysts have invented a new language for football. Strikers are all about goal expectancy, chances created and the percentage of successful passes in the final third. Old-school managers just want to know if the boy can put the ball in the net. Defensive midfielders are judged on interceptions and the number of challenges won in the centre of the pitch.
The increasing influence of analysts, young men who have no experience of scouting or recruiting players, has meant the end of the road for good football men such as Mel Johnson. He was the scout who recommended Liverpool sign talented young winger Jordon Ibe from Wycombe but was sacked, shamefully, in November 2014. Former academy director Frank McParland has also left.
Instead a new breed sits in air-conditioned offices, cutting up videos from matches all over the world and burying their heads in the stats. Edwards, along with his vast team of analysts, constantly monitors the opposition, providing detail about playing positions, style, routines, set-pieces and other important matchday information.
They profile players based on their last 10-20 appearances, gathering information and helping Rodgers build a presentation for his players before matches that was usually a maximum of 10 pages on each team. It is a useful, but far from infallible, tool.
Edwards, who is in his late thirties, began his career as part of the video analysis team at Portsmouth before leaving to work with Harry Redknapp again when he became Tottenham manager.
There, Edwards struck up a relationship with Ian Graham at Decision Technology, a data firm collecting statistics on players from all over the world.
Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy paid Decision Technology a fortune each season for their services, trusting their analysis and using Edwards, in his newly created role as head of performance analysis, to make sense of it all.
Edwards was head-hunted by Damien Comolli when the Frenchman became director of football at Liverpool, turning down an increased salary of £250,000 a year at White Hart Lane to join the Anfield revolution. Levy was distraught.
Since then he has emerged as a senior figure at Liverpool, empowered by FSG to make the call on big transfer targets after gaining their trust since his arrival in 2011.
His relationship with Rodgers deteriorated shortly after the former Liverpool manager signed a contract worth £6m a year just a week after Liverpool finished within two points of claiming the Barclays Premier League title.
They clashed over transfer strategy, although Rodgers went on record to insist that he always had the final say over the recruitment of players earmarked for the first-team squad.
In the end, Edwards had his number.
Rock Strongo
dodgy Dave Goosegog
Well who didn't at the time? We played an extremely high line with no pressure and defenders knowing we'd get fudged on the counter. Didn't AVB do it on purpose just to prove he couldn't work with the players he had? Or was he actually that stupid?
StephenH
David Ginola
AVB was that stupid!
They also beat 0-3 last season.
Rodgers did some good things for Liverpool. He had just run out of time.
Klopp is a totally unknown as far as the premiership is concerned and is a very Hollywood signing which will cost FSG a pretty penny, which either way it goes.
I personally think they missed a trick not at least trying to get Koeman.
glasgowspur
Nayim
The undercurrent of all these articles reads to me that BR was harshly dealt with because it wasn't his fault. Injuries, losing Suarez, Gerard, carragher et al, transfer committee, and now undermined by a spotty youth with no playing career and a laptop.
Just admit it he failed. Move on.
Just admit it he failed. Move on.
It's a bricky hatchet job by a bricky attempt at a journalist who is scared that once all his dinosaur mates get replaced he'll be out of a job. Someone who wanted to make up really untrue things about football journalists and managers might also mention that it would be the end of his excuse to expense strip clubs and expensive meals.
Baleforce
Martin Peters
this
jabbathehut
Luke Young
We will see if klopp does much better. I suspect he won't. The season has just started and early results would suggest it's wide open.No one can gell that many players in one go.
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
According to Bild, Klopp will be getting €10 million a year. Rodgers was on 4 million.
Jose Mourinho (13.6m)
Louis van Gaal (9.5m)
Arsene Wenger (9.35m)
Mauricio Pochettino (4m)
They also claim he had an offer from us (no mention of when), but chose Liverpool because he's a childhood fan. For real!
http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/juergen-klopp/der-neue-trainer-vom-fc-liverpool-42928930.bild.html
Jose Mourinho (13.6m)
Louis van Gaal (9.5m)
Arsene Wenger (9.35m)
Mauricio Pochettino (4m)
They also claim he had an offer from us (no mention of when), but chose Liverpool because he's a childhood fan. For real!
http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/juergen-klopp/der-neue-trainer-vom-fc-liverpool-42928930.bild.html
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indianspur
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glasgowspur
Nayim
I think he will be a success, a limited success and not given enough time and binned. They really do want top four next season, win the league the year after and then CL the year after that, at least. It's where they belong and it's their year.
Fools.
Fools.
