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General Transfer Rumour Discussion Thread

Sky Sources - we are going in with a 4th bid for Berahino after having a third rejected earlier this afternoon
 
DubaiSpur said:
I'm actually far more open to being convinced on this topic than I am on our other major disagreement, if you can believe that. :) We make our own luck, yes, but you cannot argue that outside factors (like Lasagnagate, for example) have not affected us far more than our contemporary rivals, surely?
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No I agree with you. Things have happened outside of anyone's control that have hampered us. Lasagna-gate, Chelsea winning the CL, Redknapp being targeted by England, Scholar abandoning sound business principles and overspending to an extent that a bank had a say in our transfer policy, Sugar abandoning the signing of Bergkamp etc.... But to a greater or lesser extent a lot of clubs have had things outside of control like injuries, takeovers, business people losing sense as well. Perhaps their outside influences are not as "out there" as lightning strikes and food poisoning but I'd rather us all not wallow in lost opportunities and just look ahead. I also hate the term sexy, because of the negative connotation that it associates with our club. We are the mighty badger. Audere est facere and all that.
 
DubaiSpur said:
I'm actually far more open to being convinced on this topic than I am on our other major disagreement, if you can believe that. :) We make our own luck, yes, but you cannot argue that outside factors (like Lasagnagate, for example) have not affected us far more than our contemporary rivals, surely?
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We all know it happened. It scarred us all. But we need to move on. Perpetuating the term "sexy" just makes more and more people use it which in turn feeds into the ground and to the players and we sit deep and wait for the inevitable sexy moment and capitulate at the death. We should be promoting Spursacious as a positive not sexy as a negative, we are fans not th'opposite.
 
Gazzasrightboot said:
No I agree with you. Things have happened outside of anyone's control that have hampered us. Lasagna-gate, Chel53a winning the CL, Redknapp being targeted by England, Scholar abandoning sound business principles and overspending to an extent that a bank had a say in our transfer policy, Sugar abandoning the signing of Bergkamp etc.... But to a greater or lesser extent a lot of clubs have had things outside of control like injuries, takeovers, business people losing sense as well. Perhaps their outside influences are not as "out there" as lightning strikes and food poisoning but I'd rather us all not wallow in lost opportunities and just look ahead. I also hate the term sexy, because of the negative connotation that it associates with our club. We are the mighty ****erel. Audere est facere and all that.
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Bullet said:
We all know it happened. It scarred us all. But we need to move on. Perpetuating the term "sexy" just makes more and more people use it which in turn feeds into the ground and to the players and we sit deep and wait for the inevitable sexy moment and capitulate at the death. We should be promoting Spursacious as a positive not sexy as a negative, we are fans not th'opposite.
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So, if I get this correctly, you're both not disputing that we've been more unlucky than most: you just dislike that we refer to it in such a self-reinforcing and (admittedly) negative manner?

I can get behind that, to be honest. Never considered that 'sexy' might actually be a self-reinforcing phenomenon.
 
DubaiSpur said:
So, if I get this correctly, you're both not disputing that we've been more unlucky than most: you just dislike that we refer to it in such a self-reinforcing and (admittedly) negative manner?

I can get behind that, to be honest. Never considered that 'sexy' might actually be a self-reinforcing phenomenon.
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I really don't like the term unlucky. And I don't know about more unlucky as I don't know the ins and outs of what has happened at other clubs like I do with Spurs. However, and you're right, I really don't like the sexy reference. If other clubs/fans call it sexy, fine. I can call them a clam. If it's a fellow spurs fan, I'm just disappointed.
 
Gazzasrightboot said:
I really don't like the term unlucky. And I don't know about more unlucky as I don't know the ins and outs of what has happened at other clubs like I do with Spurs. However, and you're right, I really don't like the sexy reference. If other clubs/fans call it sexy, fine. I can call them a clam. If it's a fellow spurs fan, I'm just disappointed.
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That's a fair opinion to have. I won't disagree with it. And, to be honest...I might actually agree with it. :p
 
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