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Ingerlund

been to plainmoor a few times, you have to be careful not to trip over the regulars knuckles

when in that (beautiful) part of the world I watch my football at St James'
 
Could find a thread for the FA, so will put this here.

FA's Greg Dyke announces plans to restrict non-EU players
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808

Fair enough you might think, until this quote:

"How many other Harry Kanes are around in the youth teams of Premier League clubs? It was almost by chance that Tim Sherwood became manager at Tottenham for a time and put him in the side - otherwise he would still be out on loan at Millwall or somewhere else."

Seriously!?! Now I already had a very low option of Mr Dyke and have no idea what he's doing at the Football Association, but how can you be the Chairman of the FA and have such ignorant views?
 
The question really is how has Greg Dyke ever been put in charge of anything, let alone the governing body of our national sport.

I'd think Tim would be pretty insulted by the "almost by chance" though. No credit for his Machiavellian machinations, Greg?
 
elyid said:
Could find a thread for the FA, so will put this here.

FA's Greg Dyke announces plans to restrict non-EU players
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32024808

Fair enough you might think, until this quote:

"How many other Harry Kanes are around in the youth teams of Premier League clubs? It was almost by chance that Tim Sherwood became manager at Tottenham for a time and put him in the side - otherwise he would still be out on loan at Millwall or somewhere else."

Seriously!?! Now I already had a very low option of Mr Dyke and have no idea what he's doing at the Football Association, but how can you be the Chairman of the FA and have such ignorant views?
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fudging hell...

Wrote a rant in another thread on the FA and such things, but what the bastard? Should be extremely grateful to clubs like us and Southampton who are actually developing young English players, but this is the kinds of comments we get...
 
braineclipse said:
fudgeing hell...

Wrote a rant in another thread on the FA and such things, but what the bastard? Should be extremely grateful to clubs like us and Southampton who are actually developing young English players, but this is the kinds of comments we get...
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It's just ridiculous.

So instead of focussing on better coaching / facilities to bring the level of English players up. We'll instead restrict foreign players for being better than us and bring the average level down.

Ironically, meaning any increase in English players will be playing at a lower standard.
 
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elyid said:
It's just ridiculous.

So instead of focussing on better coaching / facilities to bring the level of English players up. We'll instead restrict foreign players for being better than us and bring the average level down.

Ironically, meaning any increase in English players will be playing at a lower standard.
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Not sure about limiting the number of foreign players myself. Might have a positive effect if more domestic players get first team opportunities and can push on from there to improve. Though on the other hand, as you say, it might also lower the overall quality thus the players produced could potentially not be quite as good.

Spain and Germany seems to be good models to want to have a look at, neither has limitations on foreigners in their top leagues as far as I know... Much smaller league, but Belgium has also started producing some real quality players, famously whilst importing a lot of players.

Not convinced either way, but it doesn't seem necessary to produce quality home grown players.
 
braineclipse said:
Not sure about limiting the number of foreign players myself. Might have a positive effect if more domestic players get first team opportunities and can push on from there to improve. Though on the other hand, as you say, it might also lower the overall quality thus the players produced could potentially not be quite as good.

Spain and Germany seems to be good models to want to have a look at, neither has limitations on foreigners in their top leagues as far as I know... Much smaller league, but Belgium has also started producing some real quality players, famously whilst importing a lot of players.

Not convinced either way, but it doesn't seem necessary to produce quality home grown players.
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I think that Belgium is a bit of an anomaly, many of their players were developed abroad, so maybe it is just freaky good luck.
 
How is playing Kane massively in form over Wellbeck not in form against the mighty Lithuania a gamble, seriously what a turd


Tried and trusted

Ex-England captain Terry Butcher says boss Roy Hodgson should not start with Kane against Lithuania on Friday night, instead holding him back to make his full debut in the friendly with Italy.

Butcher believes Hodgson should not "experiment" for their Group E clash.

"In qualifiers you don't experiment," he told Morning View. "You go with tried and trusted. You go with what you've got. Win the game first and then you may be able to bring him on
 
Tried and trusted. Does he also feel England should bring back Ferdinand, Terry, A. Cole Gerrard and Lampard instead of "experimenting" with in form players?
 
markysimmo said:
"In qualifiers you don't experiment," he told Morning View. "You go with tried and trusted. You go with what you've got. Win the game first and then you may be able to bring him on
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The GG Select XI could beat Lithuania, I think Harry would be OK.
 
Robbo said:
Tried and trusted. Does he also feel England should bring back Ferdinand, Terry, A. Cole Gerrard and Lampard instead of "experimenting" with in form players?
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Hang on a minute, how many World Cups have that lot won?

I think we should get Jimmy Greaves back to take us to the final and then replace him with some other qunt to take all the credit.
 
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