Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Lol always look forward to your responses to anything Tim says
Lol always look forward to your responses to anything Tim says
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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/
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milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I think the main reasons the fans want him gone is because none of us liked him as a player, he spouts ******** when a microphone is put in front of him, the team has lacked a definable shape under him and there are the constant (if unproven) rumours of treachery.
I think the main reasons the fans want him gone is because none of us liked him as a player, he spouts ******** when a microphone is put in front of him, the team has lacked a definable shape under him and there are the constant (if unproven) rumours of treachery.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I've got a feeling he'll get the Saudi Sportswashing Machine job
I've got a feeling he'll get the Saudi Sportswashing Machine job
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I've got a feeling he thinks he'll get the Real or Utd jobs.
I've got a feeling he thinks he'll get the Real or Utd jobs.
Roland Beurre
Peter Taylor
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I think he has expressed it better than he did in his much misquoted "much of a muchness" statement, though; don't you?
I'm just popping down to the shops to drop off a parcel to a High Street newsagent (shall I take the Ferrari or Lamborghini? They are both much of a muchness - i.e. both terrible*) so haven't got time for a long post, but this clip from the Grauniad interested me.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine allow their French contingent to visit assorted orthopaedic specialists in Paris while also receiving treatment for certain injuries at Clairefontaine. Just lately Pardew has struggled to contain his frustration when Rémy, Mathieu Debuchy and Moussa Sissoko proved in no rush to return to action on Tyneside following treatment for fairly routine complaints. Saudi Sportswashing Machine's manager suspects staying fit for the World Cup rather than helping their club may be at the forefront of their minds.
Seems like there is a lot of this going on.
* Only from a parking point of view, obviously.
I think he has expressed it better than he did in his much misquoted "much of a muchness" statement, though; don't you?
I'm just popping down to the shops to drop off a parcel to a High Street newsagent (shall I take the Ferrari or Lamborghini? They are both much of a muchness - i.e. both terrible*) so haven't got time for a long post, but this clip from the Grauniad interested me.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine allow their French contingent to visit assorted orthopaedic specialists in Paris while also receiving treatment for certain injuries at Clairefontaine. Just lately Pardew has struggled to contain his frustration when Rémy, Mathieu Debuchy and Moussa Sissoko proved in no rush to return to action on Tyneside following treatment for fairly routine complaints. Saudi Sportswashing Machine's manager suspects staying fit for the World Cup rather than helping their club may be at the forefront of their minds.
Seems like there is a lot of this going on.
* Only from a parking point of view, obviously.
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Absolutely, although it's clear to all of us that's what he meant I doubt it was clear to the team at the time and that impression will likely be set in their minds.
Absolutely, although it's clear to all of us that's what he meant I doubt it was clear to the team at the time and that impression will likely be set in their minds.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Even as a TS hater i must admit that interview made a lot of sense
Even as a TS hater i must admit that interview made a lot of sense
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Livermore's not a destroyer, if anything he's like Paulinho, he's a box-to-box player for me.
Livermore's not a destroyer, if anything he's like Paulinho, he's a box-to-box player for me.
Kingdawson
Banned
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I agree.
I also think Benteleb is exactly what Tim said...a bit of everything. His positional sense is awful but he can do a bit of everything.
I agree.
I also think Benteleb is exactly what Tim said...a bit of everything. His positional sense is awful but he can do a bit of everything.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
For me a top team should never have to depend on a lot of individual players to be available at the same time, there has to be some backup. This is also true for the creative force central/deep in midfield.
Perhaps Bentaleb or Carroll could be good enough to be that backup option next season? Personally I would be rather skeptical of the pair of them as our two options for that role next season as I'm not convinced either is ready for that responsibility (although I would probably applaud any manager that made that decision). I think we have to get one playmaker type in for the summer, someone ready to do a job straight away. But one could be enough.
That would mean someone else leaving. Livermore, one of Carroll or Bentaleb on loan perhaps and one of the big 4 that isn't Sandro.
I think that's very harsh scara.
He's not saying we could do with a Luka Modric, he's saying we need that type of player. Did our transfer committee last summer agree with that? It seems not. Did it agree with that when we replaced Modric with Dembele? Or when Huddlestone was sold without any similar replacement being brought in? Seemingly not.
Now, perhaps Sherwood deserves part of the criticism for this, after all he's been a part of that transfer committee by the reports (at least at times). Perhaps he doesn't, perhaps he argued that we should have signed someone else, or used Bentaleb or Carroll? We cannot know, but right now he's saying the right things. And although it's not exactly rocket science, much like when Redknapp immediately realized that we needed a Palacios, it's correct and seemingly not as obvious to everyone in charge of such things for our club over the last couple of seasons.
Edit: If I have my negative hat on Sherwood might also deserve some criticism for not doing anything about this in January. He says he wanted Tom Carroll back, but that couldn't be done. Were there really no viable targets in the transfer market that could have done a job? No one as good as Tom Carroll? If so I'm looking forward to seeing little Tom for us next season that's for sure...
For me a top team should never have to depend on a lot of individual players to be available at the same time, there has to be some backup. This is also true for the creative force central/deep in midfield.
Perhaps Bentaleb or Carroll could be good enough to be that backup option next season? Personally I would be rather skeptical of the pair of them as our two options for that role next season as I'm not convinced either is ready for that responsibility (although I would probably applaud any manager that made that decision). I think we have to get one playmaker type in for the summer, someone ready to do a job straight away. But one could be enough.
That would mean someone else leaving. Livermore, one of Carroll or Bentaleb on loan perhaps and one of the big 4 that isn't Sandro.
I think that's very harsh scara.
He's not saying we could do with a Luka Modric, he's saying we need that type of player. Did our transfer committee last summer agree with that? It seems not. Did it agree with that when we replaced Modric with Dembele? Or when Huddlestone was sold without any similar replacement being brought in? Seemingly not.
Now, perhaps Sherwood deserves part of the criticism for this, after all he's been a part of that transfer committee by the reports (at least at times). Perhaps he doesn't, perhaps he argued that we should have signed someone else, or used Bentaleb or Carroll? We cannot know, but right now he's saying the right things. And although it's not exactly rocket science, much like when Redknapp immediately realized that we needed a Palacios, it's correct and seemingly not as obvious to everyone in charge of such things for our club over the last couple of seasons.
Edit: If I have my negative hat on Sherwood might also deserve some criticism for not doing anything about this in January. He says he wanted Tom Carroll back, but that couldn't be done. Were there really no viable targets in the transfer market that could have done a job? No one as good as Tom Carroll? If so I'm looking forward to seeing little Tom for us next season that's for sure...
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braineclipse
Willie Hall
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I wouldn't classify myself as a hater, but certainly agreeing with him is a little bit like agreeing with Cartman in South Park, makes me reconsider if my opinion is actually correct
Agreed.
Sounds a little bit like the description of a young Michael Carrick, or perhaps even a young Luka Modric?
I wouldn't classify myself as a hater, but certainly agreeing with him is a little bit like agreeing with Cartman in South Park, makes me reconsider if my opinion is actually correct
Agreed.
Sounds a little bit like the description of a young Michael Carrick, or perhaps even a young Luka Modric?
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
My understanding is that he played further forward for the Development Squad.
My understanding is that he played further forward for the Development Squad.
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Bentaleb's best performance so far IMO was away to Saudi Sportswashing Machine, where he was given a freer role in more forward positions. I think Capoue was played in that game as a holding player and it freed up both Bentaleb and Dembele to get forward and we absolutely rinsed them as a result.
Bentaleb's best performance so far IMO was away to Saudi Sportswashing Machine, where he was given a freer role in more forward positions. I think Capoue was played in that game as a holding player and it freed up both Bentaleb and Dembele to get forward and we absolutely rinsed them as a result.
Roland Beurre
Peter Taylor
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Maybe not a destroyer, but certainly a hustler.
(Full disclosure: Always had a soft spot for Jake as he was in the same class as my eldest at Enfield Grammar.)
Maybe not a destroyer, but certainly a hustler.
(Full disclosure: Always had a soft spot for Jake as he was in the same class as my eldest at Enfield Grammar.)
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indianspur
Guest
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
could the real TS please stand up............. agree, thats a good interview
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Decent but his tactics don't follow. To me, having Paulinho, Dembele, Siggy (or any two of the three) in the same side doesn't make sense
Eriksen has to play (he is simply our best midfielder), also only creative midfielder other than Carroll
If you play a DM = Sandro or Capoue
If you don't play a DM, you need someone who while not necessarily a do everything person, needs to be comfortable holding on to the ball, retaining possession, cycling the ball (to me Bentaleb is one of the few players we have that can do that)
Wide players = we really only have Lennon/Townsend, Lamela when fit
Box to box, goal threat options = Paulinho, Siggy, Dembele, Livermore, Holtby (this is where we have too much of the same)
The view for me is, bring Carroll back or buy a Creative midfielder
Get rid of 2 or 3 of our box to box midfielders
Look for another wide option (specifically on left)
Figure out a balance that works (or two, one more defensive, one more attacking)
Decent but his tactics don't follow. To me, having Paulinho, Dembele, Siggy (or any two of the three) in the same side doesn't make sense
Eriksen has to play (he is simply our best midfielder), also only creative midfielder other than Carroll
If you play a DM = Sandro or Capoue
If you don't play a DM, you need someone who while not necessarily a do everything person, needs to be comfortable holding on to the ball, retaining possession, cycling the ball (to me Bentaleb is one of the few players we have that can do that)
Wide players = we really only have Lennon/Townsend, Lamela when fit
Box to box, goal threat options = Paulinho, Siggy, Dembele, Livermore, Holtby (this is where we have too much of the same)
The view for me is, bring Carroll back or buy a Creative midfielder
Get rid of 2 or 3 of our box to box midfielders
Look for another wide option (specifically on left)
Figure out a balance that works (or two, one more defensive, one more attacking)
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
Poch could take 6 months to learn what Sherwood shows he knows about our set-up in this interview, simply by virtue of being here already. Which makes the panic to get one out and the other in seem less sensible by the day.
If Sherwood bombs, we could have him out the door and Poch in at Christmas. Since that would have been Poch's learning/acclimatisation period anyway, and since his arrival at Christmas could be a boost to the players if we're struggling, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to see the compelling need for Poch to come in this summer.
And is some other club going to poach Poch this summer? Not in England unless it's Saudi Sportswashing Machine, and I doubt he'd bother going to that madhouse. Who in Spain would he be tempted by, knowing his reputation is growing in England? Italy or Germany? Maybe, but I strongly suspect he'll still be at Southampton if we don't take him, biding his time for Spurs to come back, Arsenal to open up, Pellegrini getting the chop, or a really big job back home to come along.
Sherwood's interview - rookie gaffs absent, correct analysis of our players, repeated praise of attacking football - really shows what he could be when he settles down, stops making silly mistakes and stops losing his temper. His learning curve even in the last few weeks has been rapid.
Poch could take 6 months to learn what Sherwood shows he knows about our set-up in this interview, simply by virtue of being here already. Which makes the panic to get one out and the other in seem less sensible by the day.
If Sherwood bombs, we could have him out the door and Poch in at Christmas. Since that would have been Poch's learning/acclimatisation period anyway, and since his arrival at Christmas could be a boost to the players if we're struggling, it really is becoming increasingly difficult to see the compelling need for Poch to come in this summer.
And is some other club going to poach Poch this summer? Not in England unless it's Saudi Sportswashing Machine, and I doubt he'd bother going to that madhouse. Who in Spain would he be tempted by, knowing his reputation is growing in England? Italy or Germany? Maybe, but I strongly suspect he'll still be at Southampton if we don't take him, biding his time for Spurs to come back, Arsenal to open up, Pellegrini getting the chop, or a really big job back home to come along.
Sherwood's interview - rookie gaffs absent, correct analysis of our players, repeated praise of attacking football - really shows what he could be when he settles down, stops making silly mistakes and stops losing his temper. His learning curve even in the last few weeks has been rapid.
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
I like you mate, but the last thing the club needs is another mid season manager transition.
The equation is simple
- Either the club hierarchy believes in TS and will back him all of the next season, including purchases in summer
- Or if they doubt, and will not back him in summer, then he has to go now, get new guy in, get his buys, his preseason.
I like you mate, but the last thing the club needs is another mid season manager transition.
The equation is simple
- Either the club hierarchy believes in TS and will back him all of the next season, including purchases in summer
- Or if they doubt, and will not back him in summer, then he has to go now, get new guy in, get his buys, his preseason.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach
The chances are they do not but I hope to GHod they show more sense than half the guys on here who want anyone but Tim. Im sure the Board are more sensible and think otherwise i.e. if there isnt a great candidate at the present moment and one they truly see as a long term solution 100% convinced - then dont bother. There is absolutely no point in bringing in someone who the Board dont fancy 100% or would be a short term solution.
The chances are they do not but I hope to GHod they show more sense than half the guys on here who want anyone but Tim. Im sure the Board are more sensible and think otherwise i.e. if there isnt a great candidate at the present moment and one they truly see as a long term solution 100% convinced - then dont bother. There is absolutely no point in bringing in someone who the Board dont fancy 100% or would be a short term solution.