Richarlison

[Gazza Dazzla]

This is the bit I don't understand. If Everton were offering lower wages WE need to do something to make it work.
Otherwise, we forego a very good signing (Ndiaye) AND miss the chance to effectively realize £35m for Richie....knowing that we are going to get nothing close to that and probably heading towards zero with every day that passes.
Eg. Sacrifice £5m to Richie, Everton, whoever to get the deal done. It's not hard to work out this is the situation you'll be left in if you don't.

There were rumors on the day that it was to do with a loyalty bonus of 2m that he thought he was owed and we wouldn’t pay it.

Bit of an own goal again if that held it up just long enough to the time when Pool refused to sell Gakpo and City turned to Ndiaye..

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I thought this, but also wonder if Ndiaye’s people were playing silly buggers simultaneously.

If they'd had the whispers from City?

If so...Can't see the difference from the Eze deal....but no, 'shoulda, coulda, woulda done this and that and got the deal done...wtf were we doing' this time round

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

There were rumors on the day that it was to do with a loyalty bonus of 2m that he thought he was owed and we wouldn’t pay it.

Bit of an own goal again if that held it up just long enough to the time when Pool refused to sell Gakpo and City turned to Ndiaye..

Just financially it would make no sense not to pay it.

 

[glasgowspur]

This is the bit I don't understand. If Everton were offering lower wages WE need to do something to make it work.
Otherwise, we forego a very good signing (Ndiaye) AND miss the chance to effectively realize £35m for Richie....knowing that we are going to get nothing close to that and probably heading towards zero with every day that passes.
Eg. Sacrifice £5m to Richie, Everton, whoever to get the deal done. It's not hard to work out this is the situation you'll be left in if you don't.

Maybe Richie felt he was being taken advantage of, would you be happy to go to an employer who treated you like that, especially after he's had bad experiences elsewhere.
He wants support, doesn't sound like Everton were offering it.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Maybe Richie felt he was being taken advantage of, would you be happy to go to an employer who treated you like that, especially after he's had bad experiences elsewhere.
He wants support, doesn't sound like Everton were offering it.

Depends what you mean by 'treated like that'?....if it's that they couldn't match his wage demands, that might just be a budget thing, a spreadsheet thing. And it depends how far apart they were.
Richie is at that age where you're coming in as a sunk cost, as a 4 year contract takes him to 33, so worth little by then.

As I say WE could have oiled the wheels, if Richie was having a crisis about his 'worth'

 

[glasgowspur]

Depends what you mean by 'treated like that'?....if it's that they couldn't match his wage demands, that might just be a budget thing, a spreadsheet thing. And it depends how far apart they were.
Richie is at that age where you're coming in as a sunk cost, as a 4 year contract takes him to 33, so worth little by then.

As I say WE could have oiled the wheels, if Richie was having a crisis about his 'worth'

At some point it's not going to be about the money, it's going to be about him feeling wanted.
If Everton are not willing to pay him how is he going to feel comfortable that he will be treated right.

 

[Bishop]

Taking him off the squad list probably didn't do much for the club in terms of getting a bigger fee. Now, everybody knows it's a straight choice between paying him for not playing or accepting whatever offer is on the table. Hopefully, they did it because the talks with Trabzonspor are at an advanced stage.

I think this is likely the case.

This is the bit I don't understand. If Everton were offering lower wages WE need to do something to make it work.
Otherwise, we forego a very good signing (Ndiaye) AND miss the chance to effectively realize £35m for Richie....knowing that we are going to get nothing close to that and probably heading towards zero with every day that passes.
Eg. Sacrifice £5m to Richie, Everton, whoever to get the deal done. It's not hard to work out this is the situation you'll be left in if you don't.

Aye, this is what I think would have been sensible. It would have allowed us to both get Richy off the books and to get the versatile attacker that we really wanted.

 

[Lemonade Money]

More evidence our board haven't got a scooby. Was speaking to a player agent who said the industry is laughing at our business.

 

[JerusalemMan]

More evidence our board haven't got a scooby. Was speaking to a player agent who said the industry is laughing at our business.

That's hearsay not evidence.
And the quality of our business will be shown in the next season or two, not in the immediate words of scoffers or gullible sheep

 

[glorygloryeze]

More evidence our board haven't got a scooby. Was speaking to a player agent who said the industry is laughing at our business.

Let me take a wild guess...that same agent two seasons ago said to you that the industry was in awe of our business in the last two summer windows, right?
You know, the ones where we only bought one first-teamer and a load of youngsters that we expected Ange to use and push upwards from 5th and the summer when we were blown out and strung along by MGW and Eze..

Bring back Levy and waiting until the last minute to get Sissoko and Njie instead of Mane and Wijnaldum. Man those were the days..

 

[SteveAWOL]

Oh for the good old days when our LWF was a consummate professional, adored by all and who let his football do the talking…

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[harr1984]

Just financially it would make no sense not to pay it.

Something so obvious to posters on here, yet CEOs constantly dealing with big money couldn't figure it out - almost like there's more to the story than meets the eye, a novel concept I know .....