Levy's Plan

[Lemonade Money]

Sugar may of saved us from a financial mess, but put us in a football mess. The squads were severely lacking, and the financial clout we missed with the CL boat, took Levy years to regain.

 

[DTA]

Sorry which seasons are you referring to? We finished 4th once since 2019

Levy’s last six full seasons:

2019/20: 6th
2020/21: 7th
2021/22: 4th
2022/23: 8th
2023/24: 5th
2024/25: 17th

You said 6-7 years

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

I hope that somebody buys his stake and he gets a chance to run something significant as the majority owner.

 

[DeanoAustin]

Don't waste your breath.
Levy = bad
No Levy = good
Some of the comments about how much better it is without him are laughable. Let's just see how it plays out.

This summer doesn’t happen without Levy’s vision and work. We’d be in a similar position to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and Villa without him. The people currently running the club have a platform to do what they’re doing because of Levy regardless of what you make of his 25 years in charge.

 

[Lemonade Money]

I hope that somebody buys his stake and he gets a chance to run something significant as the majority owner.

Any club wanting to build a new stadium, would be nuts not to employ Levy to oversee it.

 

[Baleforce]

Any club wanting to build a new stadium, would be nuts not to employ Levy to oversee it.

I expect he’s had plenty of offers already.

 

[parklane1]

This summer doesn’t happen without Levy’s vision and work. We’d be in a similar position to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and Villa without him. The people currently running the club have a platform to do what they’re doing because of Levy regardless of what you make of his 25 years in charge.

Well said, i know there are a some fans [ especially the CFT mob] that blame him for our troubles but i honestly believe we are a much better posistion then when he first got here.

 

[Jurgen the German]

You said 6-7 years

Well if you include Poch’s last full season then yes we did finish 4th. But my point was it’s been by and large a downward trajectory since we sacked him, only one top 4 finish and finishing in the bottom half. Unless you think the league finishes I highlighted constitute progress?

 

[DTA]

Well if you include Poch’s last full season then yes we did finish 4th. But my point was it’s been by and large a downward trajectory since we sacked him, only one top 4 finish and finishing in the bottom half. Unless you think the league finishes I highlighted constitute progress?

Of course you include Poch’s last year if you are going back 7 years. Which is the time period you set.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Of course you include Poch’s last year if you are going back 7 years. Which is the time period you set.

Well even so it’s 2 top 4 finishes in 7 years. I ask again is that progress on what Poch delivered in terms of league finishes?

 

[DTA]

Well even so it’s 2 top 4 finishes in 7 years. I ask again is that progress on what Poch delivered in terms of league finishes?

on what Poch Delivered? Did that have nothing to do with Levy then?

Because that means what came after Poch had nothing to do with Levy either.

But you ain’t gonna agree with that are you?

Let me ask you a question.

Apart from the Levy era when in a 7 year period did we finish top four more than twice.

I’m guessing in the 60s and maybe … maybe the 80s. If so two decades out of our history match up levy’s worst period… are you getting it yet?

 

[Jurgen the German]

on what Poch Delivered? Did that have nothing to do with Levy then?

Because that means what came after Poch had nothing to do with Levy either.

But you ain’t gonna agree with that are you?

Let me ask you a question.

Apart from the Levy era when in a 7 year period did we finish top four more than twice.

I’m guessing in the 60s and maybe … maybe the 80s. If so two decades out of our history match up levy’s worst period… are you getting it yet?

Of course it had something to do with Levy. He’s partly responsible when we succeed and when we fail.

I already mentioned previous eras where we achieved multiple top four finishes, and trophies.

The question you keep refusing to answer, are the league finishes 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th what progression looks like? Should Levy have had a lifetime pass because he improved upon his predecessor?

I don’t think there’s any question that we went backwards since Poch left from a football standpoint but you clearly disagree. Finishing outside of the top 4 more frequently than we finished inside it including a 17th place finish is clearly an improvement on what Poch (and Levy) had achieved previously.

 

[DTA]

Of course it had something to do with Levy. He’s partly responsible when we succeed and when we fail.

I already mentioned previous eras where we achieved multiple top four finishes, and trophies.

The question you keep refusing to answer, are the league finishes 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th what progression looks like? Should Levy have had a lifetime pass because he improved upon his predecessor?

I don’t think there’s any question that we went backwards since Poch left from a football standpoint but you clearly disagree. Finishing outside of the top 4 more frequently than we finished inside it including a 17th place finish is clearly an improvement on what Poch (and Levy) had achieved previously.

Of course we regressed from where we were 7 years ago.

I’m just saying even in that 7 year period of regression in the league it was still one of our best 7 year periods in terms of league finishes in our entire history.

And I strongly believe that Levy would have turned it around and had us competing again.

I don’t have that faith in this lot… who have made terrible football decisions and this summer have thrown a lot of the clubs future revenue to back a manager that I like but has not proved himself here… or anywhere else for that matter. While selling some top young prospects

I’m a spurs fan so I obviously hope it works out. But it’s risky.

 

[Finney Is Back]

on what Poch Delivered? Did that have nothing to do with Levy then?

Because that means what came after Poch had nothing to do with Levy either.

But you ain’t gonna agree with that are you?

Let me ask you a question.

Apart from the Levy era when in a 7 year period did we finish top four more than twice.

I’m guessing in the 60s and maybe … maybe the 80s. If so two decades out of our history match up levy’s worst period… are you getting it yet?

50s, 60s and 80s (3 out of 5 ‘pre Levy’ decades that Spurs spent in the top division).

 

[DTA]

50s, 60s and 80s (3 out of 5 ‘pre Levy’ decades that Spurs spent in the top division).

So in other words in our entire 143 year history we only bettered (in terms of league finishes) Levy’s worst 7 year period only 3 times.

 

[Finney Is Back]

So in other words in our entire 143 year history we only bettered (in terms of league finishes) Levy’s worst 7 year period only 3 times.

Since Spurs became a regular top division club in 1950. We have had 4 decades in which we achieved 3 or more top 4 finishes in a 7year period.

3 out of 5 decades pre Levy and 1 out of 3 decades (actually 2.5 to be fair to him) with Levy, So 60% versus 40%

Though we won 12 trophies in those 5 pre Levy decades (@2.4 per decade) versus 2 (@ 0.8 per decade) with Levy at the reigns.

 

[DTA]

Since Spurs became a regular top division club in 1950. We have had 4 decades in which we achieved 3 or more top 4 finishes in a 7year period.

3 out of 5 decades pre Levy and 1 out of 3 decades (actually 2.5 to be fair to him) with Levy, So 60% versus 40%

Though we won 12 trophies in those 5 pre Levy decades (@2.4 per decade) versus 2 (@ 0.8 per decade) with Levy at the reigns.

I love how you are trying to frame it within the time period you want only, didn’t we finish top 2 or 3 in the 20s and 30s? So not like we were non league until the 50s

We were talking about 7 year periods that @Jurgen the German set as a time scale but you changed it to decades.

Let me put it another way under Levy we had 7 top four finishes in our entire history before that…. Just 8.

I might have to double check that stat… because fùck me

If that stat is correct, then in our entire history Levy’s reign accounted for almost half of our top 4 finishes.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I love how you are trying to frame it within the time period you want only, didn’t we finish top 2 or 3 in the 20s and 30s? So not like we were non league until the 50s

We were talking about 7 year periods that @Jurgen the German set as a time scale but you changed it to decades.

Let me put it another way under Levy we had 7 top four finishes in our entire history before that…. Just 8.

I might have to double check that stat… because fùck me

If that stat is correct, then in our entire history Levy’s reign accounted for almost half of our top 4 finishes.

Its like 9 top 4 finishes since the 6s before DL and 7 after. So yeh, more or less in the time frames used he accounted for just under 50% of them in 25 years instead of 40.

Was a relegation in there too

 

[DTA]

Its like 9 top 4 finishes since the 6s before DL and 7 after. So yeh, more or less in the time frames used he accounted for just under 50% of them in 25 years instead of 40.

Was a relegation in there too

Using @Finney Is Back time frame Levy actually accounted for more than 50% of our top 4 finishes

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Using @Finney Is Back time frame Levy actually accounted for more than 50% of our top 4 finishes

Ohhhh I just used AI to count them up.