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Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

MartyFunkhouser said:
TBF, the blokes gone, its done, you seem intent on him having to be hated. He was just the wrong bloke at the wrong club, but he wasnt a bad bloke. We move to forward
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Honestly I don’t want him to be hated, but I do just find it odd how, compared to a heck of a lot of other managers who have not performed anywhere near as badly, he gets off EXTREMELY lightly. And again, I don’t need fans to hate the guy personally, but I would like to see a more honest accounting of his time with us in the media. We nearly got relegated and he played a huge part in that, and frankly De Zerbi embarrassed him with what he was able to achieve in terms of style of play in pretty much two games.

I just find the collective glossing over, while many other figures are laughing stocks, to be very odd.
 
billyiddo said:
This - and there's no one interested in defending him or taking exception to the criticism so the topic has no legs for discussion. What else is going to happen other than it being consigned to history? 😂
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I personally just find the lack of emotion he stirs in people when he is one of the biggest reasons we almost got relegated to be a little odd, that’s all. ‘He very nearly caused the biggest sporting embarrassment in history. It didn’t work. We move on’. Just doesn’t feel like the right sentiment to me. Way more successful managers have inspired way more hate.

If Frank finished 12th, I’d understand ‘it just didn’t work, move on.’ To very nearly relegate us?? I almost don’t think it’s understood just how incredibly awful that is.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Honestly I don’t want him to be hated, but I do just find it odd how, compared to a heck of a lot of other managers who have not performed anywhere near as badly, he gets off EXTREMELY lightly. And again, I don’t need fans to hate the guy personally, but I would like to see a more honest accounting of his time with us in the media. We nearly got relegated and he played a huge part in that, and frankly De Zerbi embarrassed him with what he was able to achieve in terms of style of play in pretty much two games.

I just find the collective glossing over, while many other figures are laughing stocks, to be very odd.
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Honestly mate, people have just moved on
 
harr1984 said:
Problem with that stat is that most of his points came at the start, he was picking up next to no points for some time and was only taking us down.....
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Yeah i agree with that. Even if it was more evenly spread over his time that sort of return is unacceptable and when form/results suffer a dramatic decline you can't focus on a good spell at the beginning.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Honestly I don’t want him to be hated, but I do just find it odd how, compared to a heck of a lot of other managers who have not performed anywhere near as badly, he gets off EXTREMELY lightly. And again, I don’t need fans to hate the guy personally, but I would like to see a more honest accounting of his time with us in the media. We nearly got relegated and he played a huge part in that, and frankly De Zerbi embarrassed him with what he was able to achieve in terms of style of play in pretty much two games.

I just find the collective glossing over, while many other figures are laughing stocks, to be very odd.
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Maybe people are still in the Lifeboat moment.....
 
Gazza said:
Well time will tell. His Brentford team were punching, developed great players, gave the successive coach a springboard … better managers have failed here in equal measure if you look at money spent and expectations.

He failed. It happens. Move on.
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I think "developed great players" is an over statement.
 
We just have to put the hire of Frank as a symptom of how ENIC have downgraded our appeal as a football entity to players/managers now.

In hindsight, we sacked a manager who had massive issues with dealing with the PL levels (our ppg progressively were nosediving every month/quarter) but who also won a trophy for a guy who had never even managed in a European competition, let alone previously won a trophy.

So then, we have to throw big cash at getting RDZ.

I honestly think things won't change overall until we have new owners.
We have had the best striker ever at Spurs under their ownership (one who fell into their laps, who they DID NOT HAVE TO INVEST A SINGLE PENNY TO GET) and still they did't know/care to use that advantage to truly elevate the club.We are now back to the kind of mediocre levels we were when they first bought us and almost act the same way, giving excuses for our poor performance (remember back then it was "we can't compete because we don't have regular European participation" etc)

Frank might struggle to get a big-ish job after his stint here, but like others before him, he can still spin it as "well it was Spurs and you know what they're like"...

Sigh.
 
The quickest of Google searches throws up the following pieces, all highly damning of Frank’s time with us.

I’m not sure he has got off lightly in the media.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thomas Frank sacking: Tottenham appointment a gamble that ended in failure

Thomas Frank's sacking came as no surprise on Wednesday. His appointment by Tottenham was a gamble that ended in a storm of toxicity, writes Phil McNulty.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

www.nytimes.com

Thomas Frank was meant to bring stability to Spurs, but ended up unpopular with fans and players

There have been some unpopular managers at Spurs in recent years. But even at the worst moments, predecessors were not as scorned as Frank
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com


 
Hopefully RDZ’s honeymoon period lasts longer than the previous 2 permanent managers’ did in the EPL🤞

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