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***OMT - Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa, Sun May 3rd, 7pm, Villa Park ***

Mrs Vert said:
Agree regards to time. But I have seen nothing that gives me confidence. Frank staying as long. Buying nobody in Jan. Tudor......... I wouldnt miss him if he left
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The CEO is listening to his DoF…. As he should be.

The CEO may of course appoint a new DoF this summer. If we do then I hope the CEO continues to let the DoF make the football decisions.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Palhinha may not be a perfect midfielder and lack the quality we see in others but in most of the games I've seen him play he is trying to hold the team together with his effort and experience. I think we've missed that in games and he has set better leadership qualities than we have seen from our captains. At Fulham I always thought he's a walking red card but he's been very controlled here, sort of player I wouldn't want to play against but like him in my team.
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I think Palhinha is an elite player at what he does, he gives a brick and we would be mad not to buy.

What I think most people haven't circled on, is that side yesterday had Danso, Porro, Bentancur, Palhinha, Gallagher, Richi, by choice or by realization, that's 6 of our most senior players, all of which will run themselves into the ground for the right manager. and they all set the tone.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
Another very important aspect of yesterday's game, for me, was that we often looked like we had an extra player compared to Villa. Of course, they were probably more interested in their upcoming game with Forest while we were fighting for our lives, but we often had two or three players pressing for the ball and when they won the ball back, they had options around them to get out of the opposition's press. It's a major improvement in terms of mobility from Frank's team.

Either that or the yellow shirts made us more visible.
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I'd also say yesterday Spurs had a "feature" I haven't seen in a long time, we looked like the kind of team you don't want to play against, Villa was suffocated in that first 60 minutes, no tea wants to play against that. Even when we were a good team, we had moments of being open or easy to play against. RDZ has us looking like one of his sides, awful to play against, pressing, intensity, traps.
 
Finney Is Back said:
I don’t understand how anyone can judge Vinai yet. It will take a lot longer than a year for a CEO to completely change the culture.
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He has to be judged, especially if the talk around is remotely true.

- I have no issue with the Frank appointment (as bad and as obvious I thought it was), the issues was sticking with him
- It's very similar to the January decision in that way.

As an executive at this level you make calls, it's always risk/reward, you get paid to make unpopular decisions,

- Reality is he was wrong (even if it was under advice) both times, so badly, it's been catastrophic.
- If the rumours of one of the nepo babies is who stepped in both for Frank out, and to insist on RDZ, he's a dead man walking.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Think the last couple of weeks has shown that the opinions of some pundits are worth no more than fans’ opinions.

West Ham win a game so we’re definitely down. Now they lose one and we win and we’re staying up.

How many times did you hear “these Spurs players just aren’t good enough” over the last few months. A load of brick. “The manager can only do so much”. Yeah maybe but he can do a hell of a lot more than Frank or Tudor.

Carragher a few weeks ago “are you telling me Spurs can go to Wolves and win? No chance”. Same fella who said there was “no chance Spurs can beat United in a final.”

Some pundits are swayed as much by emotion and what way the wind is blowing as the rest of us.
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Roy Keane being the exception! He simply said 'put all your money on Spurs'!
 
Mrs Vert said:
Agree regards to time. But I have seen nothing that gives me confidence. Frank staying as long. Buying nobody in Jan. Tudor......... I wouldnt miss him if he left
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Exactly. As much as the CEO role is to lay the foundations for the long term future of the club and you only see that over a larger period of time (like Levy sustainably building us from a joke of a club to Champions league regulars, along with the best training ground and stadium in the league..), there are also decisions that have to be taken for the here and now and Vinai’s 0-4. Choosing Frank, not sacking Frank 3 months earlier, not acting in the Jan transfer window, appointing Tudor. At the moment, based on the facts in front of us to suggest Vinai will work out is based almost entirely on hope..
 
DeanoAustin said:
Think the last couple of weeks has shown that the opinions of some pundits are worth no more than fans’ opinions.

West Ham win a game so we’re definitely down. Now they lose one and we win and we’re staying up.

How many times did you hear “these Spurs players just aren’t good enough” over the last few months. A load of brick. “The manager can only do so much”. Yeah maybe but he can do a hell of a lot more than Frank or Tudor.

Carragher a few weeks ago “are you telling me Spurs can go to Wolves and win? No chance”. Same fella who said there was “no chance Spurs can beat United in a final.”

Some pundits are swayed as much by emotion and what way the wind is blowing as the rest of us.
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I know you know this, but it's what they do, it's what they're paid to do. They don't know brick. Gary Neville got sacked after what, 4 months, of coaching Valencia? Their blabber club is just "content" (filler) for people to rest their eyes on because there's nothing else to look at. "Oh, football related, must be good" - no, it's not. Look at your carpet for a better experience for your eyes and mind. Every time I spend five minutes watching The Overlap or similar, I just feel fooled. "Why am I watching this?" - and I go see some Youtube videos on Tool or something instead, and feel a lot better. The pundits are completely and utterly pointless - we just like getting riled up, for some reason - and they're good at doing that, unfortunately.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
I actually think 1-2 flattered Villa.
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Yup, considering Villa scored with literally their only shot on target plus we should’ve been 4 goals up by that point (had Richarlison squared to Muani for a tap-in plus Tel done the same for Gallagher) then very flattering scoreline indeed!!

Thankfully goal difference is unlikely to be a factor in our fight to finish above Wet Spam.
 
Raziel said:
He has to be judged, especially if the talk around is remotely true.

- I have no issue with the Frank appointment (as bad and as obvious I thought it was), the issues was sticking with him
- It's very similar to the January decision in that way.

As an executive at this level you make calls, it's always risk/reward, you get paid to make unpopular decisions,

- Reality is he was wrong (even if it was under advice) both times, so badly, it's been catastrophic.
- If the rumours of one of the nepo babies is who stepped in both for Frank out, and to insist on RDZ, he's a dead man walking.
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Frank was appointed while Levy was still here. I have massive issues with Frank’s appointment. We again lurched to another 180 degree turn in terms of our manager, choosing a negative manager with a history of boring, functional football.

I suspect Lange will depart this summer and we’ll appoint a new DoF, that will be the CEO taking action and appointing a new DoF that, again, he should defer football decisions to. I just hope we go out and get a great DoF that we have to compensate another club for and not just whoever happens to be available.
 
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Gazza Dazzla said:
Exactly. As much as the CEO role is to lay the foundations for the long term future of the club and you only see that over a larger period of time (like Levy sustainably building us from a joke of a club to Champions league regulars, along with the best training ground and stadium in the league..), there are also decisions that have to be taken for the here and now and Vinai’s 0-4. Choosing Frank, not sacking Frank 3 months earlier, not acting in the Jan transfer window, appointing Tudor. At the moment, based on the facts in front of us to suggest Vinai will work out is based almost entirely on hope..
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All,of those are (or at least should be) DoF decisions. The CEO should appoint the DoF of course (Levy appointed Lange).
 
Vinai & Lange conducted the managerial search in the summer, both were front and centre with all the press regarding the appointment, talking up their process wrt finding the right man. 30 man shortlist wasn't it?

Lange was promoted to DoF after Levy had been let go with Paratich being ushered out shortly after.
 
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