Legohamster
Dimitar Berbatov
Loses its shine after being weak for the first goal
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Guglielmo Vicario
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Colin Calderwood
It was a great strike, it just doesn't suit your agenda. Was Donnarumma weak for both our goals?
Bishop
Rafael Van Der Vaart
For me it's more that the goal and the save are examples of his strengths and weaknesses. He's a fantastic close range reaction stopper, one of the best in the business. His performance with middle and long distance shots is not so good because he seems to misjudge his positioning and thus makes the save more difficult than it might have been.
While I agree he might have done more for 1st goal, on the replay it takes spin and deflection from Dragusin that makes it harder than initially expected.
lurker of old
Naybet
Every single time he takes a kick I say "10 yards further up ffs". He cannot kick to save his life. Can't kick, can't catch, can't command the area....but great shot stopper.
Bishop
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Close reaction stopper, poor from distance.
I must admit I never really understand this as praise for a goalkeeper. Isn’t that the basic requirement? I do get that some keepers will be more naturally reactive than others but if that’s all you’ve got, it’s not really high praise imo.
Baleforce
Terry Naylor
It used to be, it's a rarity now.
Raya gets a lot of praise generally, but look at Muani's goal yesterday, it went straight through him. Two decades ago, every keeper in the PL, saves that shot, every time.
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Paul Stewart
Indeed, I'm sure that fans of every team see their keeper make some fantastic saves. I don't think Vic is an outlier here at all. His shot stopping ability (which I'd say is somewhere between average and good at PL level) doesn't get anywhere close to making up for his considerable weaknesses, weaknesses that he hasn't addressed at all since arriving at Spurs.
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Paul Stewart
Raya is better than Vic by a country mile. He does absolutely everything better than Vicario does. It is a shame that the hierarchy at Spurs considered £30m too expensive for a proven, PL goalkeeper a few years ago. The fact that we'll end up spending far more than that to (possibly) find a keeper good enough makes it laughable.
Needs replacing.
thfcsteff
Sonny Walters
My word it gets wore/better/funnier with every viewing…
SteveAWOL
Erik Thorstvedt
At least our dear transfer committee made up for that error by subsequently paying top dollar for Brentford's
RunTMC
Ilie Dumitrescu
I’m not so concerned with him kicking it out of play, we’re not directly hurt from that.
Bigger issue is how poor he is with shots from distance and it’s because of his footwork. Iwobi’s goal is a perfect example.
He dives with both feet on the ground from a static position. You get very little launch that way. He has a good view of the shot, a couple of quick steps his right would give him momentum and a better launch for an easy save.
I’m surprised there’s been no improvement in this area, it’s why he’s often beaten from distance so easily. This doesn’t take away from his short distance saves, which is fantastic
Bigger issue is how poor he is with shots from distance and it’s because of his footwork. Iwobi’s goal is a perfect example.
He dives with both feet on the ground from a static position. You get very little launch that way. He has a good view of the shot, a couple of quick steps his right would give him momentum and a better launch for an easy save.
I’m surprised there’s been no improvement in this area, it’s why he’s often beaten from distance so easily. This doesn’t take away from his short distance saves, which is fantastic
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Paul Stewart
His positioning in general looked poor for that second goal. He seemed to be covering too much of his near post.