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Igor the Interim

metalgear said:
i assume its only the main pitch that has a shallow pitch depth due to the need for mechanically moving it.
don't we train on regular pitches with normal pitch depth? visiting players don't usually get injured playing against us at home
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If this were an issue at all I think it would be a combination of playing time along with fatigue but it would most likely be caused by our training pitches rather than the ground itself.
 
Training video of him telling the players they need to help each other out, they need to make themselves available/open for pass .. me likey.

I also think he's hinting at he'll find the players with the fight vs. just who on paper should play, as a few more come back, might be interesting if anyone suddenly doesn't make starting 11
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I was told we have a very shallow pitch depth
Did raise them in a twitter thread and got told I was wrong
I was told it on the tour
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Pitch depth is fairly uniform nowadays. Remember the top layers are removed and replaced each summer.

You only need 50cm before the hard binding layer.

Remember EACH of our 3 pitch trays is 3,000 tons, so the pitch is very deep and solid.



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Bullet said:
Pitch depth is fairly uniform nowadays. Remember the top layers are removed and replaced each summer.

You only need 50cm before the hard binding layer.

Remember EACH of our 3 pitch trays is 3,000 tons, so the pitch is very deep and solid.



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I’m really not claiming to be any expert
I did do the contract for the millennium stadium pitch to be relaid when I was at Laings but it was just a contract and I didn’t have a clue TBH
 
Bullet said:
Pitch depth is fairly uniform nowadays. Remember the top layers are removed and replaced each summer.

You only need 50cm before the hard binding layer.

Remember EACH of our 3 pitch trays is 3,000 tons, so the pitch is very deep and solid.



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There's something going on, whether it's the pitch, the actual players or like Munn alluded to not having a top tier medical program who knows but we need to investigate all areas and come to some sort of plan of action.
 
Looking worse than under Frank, but don't think any manager can get this bunch playing much better, we need Kudus and Deki back to get an injection with some quality to the team to avoid relegation.
 
SteveAWOL said:
Looking back through our 3 year (114 PL games) rolling form and it would appear that Crooked Joe’s kids have truly brought us back to where we were before Levy, so mediocre managers combined with limited players would seem like a natural progression as the negative spiral fully takes hold and our rebuild becomes ever more painful…

Feb 2023-current:
13th) Won 41 Drawn 22 Lost 51 For 196 Against 193 Diff +3 Points 145
2020-2023:
5th) Won 60 Drawn 20 Lost 34 For 203 Against 133 Diff +70 Points 200
2017-2020:
3rd) Won 67 Drawn 17 Lost 13 For 218 Against 117 Diff +101 Points 218
2014-2017:
4th) Won 60 Drawn 29 Lost 25 For 199 Against 126 Diff +73 Points 209
2011-2014:
5th) Won 59 Drawn 29 Lost 26 For 185 Against 135 Diff +50 Points 206
2008-2011:
5th) Won 51 Drawn 29 Lost 34 For 167 Against 133 Diff +34 Points 182
2005-2008:
6th) Won 46 Drawn 32 Lost 36 For 171 Against 148 Diff -+23 Points 170
2002-2005:
11th) Won 41 Drawn 23 Lost 50 For 143 Against 166 Diff -23 Points 146
1999-2002:
8th) Won 42 Drawn 25 Lost 47 For 157 Against 157 Diff 0 Points 151
1996-1999:
12th) Won 36 Drawn 34 Lost 44 For 137 Against 152 Diff -15 Points 142
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Crooked Joe?
 
Baleforce said:
He’s only had 2 weeks.

The players have been clams for months.

I thought it was mostly a lazy effort today.
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This isn't meant to be a long term appointment though; every game needs a result. Time is not a important. We needed an immediate impact (that doesn't necessarily mean he had to win the last two games but at least show that we could have nicked something from one of them). I saw nothing today ( and even less last week) that indicated that we can get anything against Palace. We are all over the place defensively and are as toothless as ever in attack. A combo that will see us relegated.
 
Robspur12 said:
This isn't meant to be a long term appointment though; every game needs a result. Time is not a important. We needed an immediate impact (that doesn't necessarily mean he had to win the last two games but at least show that we could have nicked something from one of them). I saw nothing today ( and even less last week) that indicated that we can get anything against Palace. We are all over the place defensively and are as toothless as ever in attack. A combo that will see us relegated.
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I don't think its possible with the attitude of the most of the group of available players.

TF wasn't a mug, to think that anyone else could walk in and generate a huge upturn in performances was fanciful.

There is no magic button we can press.
 
Robspur12 said:
This isn't meant to be a long term appointment though; every game needs a result. Time is not a important. We needed an immediate impact (that doesn't necessarily mean he had to win the last two games but at least show that we could have nicked something from one of them). I saw nothing today ( and even less last week) that indicated that we can get anything against Palace. We are all over the place defensively and are as toothless as ever in attack. A combo that will see us relegated.
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I think you only see so much in training. Igor now has 2 games worth of data points and simply must prioritise the Palace and Forest games in March. Everything should be geared towards that.

Igor must have surely seen what we all did and there needs to be casualties on Thursday. Gallagher is a great example. Whatever he is saying or doing between games should not trump that he is not able to play at PL pace yet. Ditto with Dragu. Either is he is as bad as some make out, or he is simply not ready for PL pace after a very long injury. Either way, he needs removing.

Just 2 examples of where Igor needs to prove to us in game 3 that he can generate some green shoots out of this bunch.
 
Rafa87 said:
I don’t really get how anyone can pick the bloke apart with what he has available, most of what he has don’t really care and think they’re above this and the only half decent quality is in a recovery room somewhere.

Whatever happens here, this isn’t really on him for me.
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The question is are there enough games to give an interim the chance to save us? I think the answer is yes. The next question is how does that manager get us over the line? Given the time, I would drill us defensively, have us compact and aim to hit teams on the break. A bit like we were in EL winning run. We look woeful at either end of the pitch. Igor had 2 clear weeks to at least drill the team but instead both games could have been lost by 4 goals. I mean today the defending was school playground bad. Iwobi had no one challenging him before scoring. Fulham are inconsistent, it was not impossible to get a draw there today and another point away from the teams around us.
 
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