Thomas Frank - Head Coach

[MartyFunkhouser]

I doubt Frank had any say in the Son matter - he was quite clearly off for something new having won the trophy

Same and I think the timelines were laid out by Son in one of his interviews

 

[harr1984]

You can sense the Peterson Podcasters firing up now with "well he ain't going to call him crap is he"


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It's so easy to see that Frank is a good guy, nice words from VDV - you can tell he's a people person, hopefully that will help nurture some of the younger players...

 

[Gazza]

If he did half the job he did at Chelsea with this squad, we'll be flying.

There's no point waiting till the summer. If there's no Frank green shoots in the next 2 or 3 games, make the phonecall now

Trump is pointing his Nukes at your address at the ready

 

[SpurMeUp]

I've not seen any real pressing from us yet under Frank, well certainly not a coherent press anyway. When I was watching the Chelsea v Aston Villa game a few days ago I couldn't help but admire Chelsea's press, it was really high, intense and well drilled. The way that Aston Villa were able to play through it in the second half was even more impressive, some really brilliant stuff. Must say that I really enjoyed the second half of that game, really high quality football played.

We were pressing Palace

It wasn’t the most fierce and intense. We only use it when there is a point to it so we don’t run players into the ground for nothing. More to come on these details no doubt. We can improve our pressing, how and when it’s deployed and team coordination.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Seeing as we’re back at Ange v Frank again (LOL), I think it is worth pointing out that Ange came into a bigger mess with bigger needs. No Kane (and not really knowing it until deadline day), undoing the Conte/Stellini mess of the previous season, moving away from mid-level bloated squad players into a new direction; that was a lot of work. Frank himself came in saying ‘we stand on the shoulders of others’ and spoke loudly about ‘building on the foundations Ange built’, yet here we are and it’s apparently now going to take a long time to and people need to know there’s no ‘quick fix’, we’re apparently ‘not really a CL club’, and so on and so forth.
It’s two messages.
The only thing I can conclude is that despite all the homework Frank will have done, he simply did not understand what he was stepping into.

LOL is right.

The narrative from those who didn’t want Ange sacked is hilarious. We are moving forwards! Let it go

 

[Gutter Boy]

Trump is pointing his Nukes at your address at the ready

I'll just tweet him that its a disgrace that south american migrants are keeping decent white MAGA americans like Bruce Arena out of jobs, and Mango Mussolini will even cover our air fares

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I'll just tweet him that its a disgrace that south american migrants are keep decent white MAGA americans like Bruce Arena out of jobs, and Mango Mussolini will even cover our air fares

I blame Frank

 

[Finney Is Back]

Though I fully expect to see Frank sacked in April/May at the point it is clear that we'll finish the season trophyless and out of the European places.

I don't. I think Vinai will end the managerial merry go round and give him a chance. Why on earth not? The manager can only do so much, it's about the players...

Time will tell. We don't yet know how our new CEO will operate. We know he would be gone under the old one but perhaps those in charge at the club have more patience and realism these days?

 

[Finney Is Back]

We were pressing Palace

It wasn’t the most fierce and intense. We only use it when there is a point to it so we don’t run players into the ground for nothing. More to come on these details no doubt. We can improve our pressing, how and when it’s deployed and team coordination.

Sorry, I must have blinked and missed it. We only had a third of the ball in the game, either Palace are superb at playing through a press, our press is absolutely crap or we weren't really pressing at all (note that three players committing to a press isn't a press IMO).

 

[Finney Is Back]

LOL is right.

The narrative from those who didn’t want Ange sacked is hilarious. We are moving forwards! Let it go

The narrative from those that did want him sacked is equally hilarious. "Moving forward" is subjective. I've seen very little that impresses me so far.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Time will tell.

Hallelujah.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Sorry, I must have blinked and missed it. We only had a third of the ball in the game, either Palace are superb at playing through a press, our press is absolutely crap or we weren't really pressing at all (note that three players committing to a press isn't a press IMO).

Or…you love a good whinge

The issue was what we did with the ball once we won it back. Until the game opened up we rarely broke well or controlled possession. That is the issue Frank is working on. Not sure what your fixation with pressing is all about - other than one Aussie manager loved it. Is that it?

A full-on press for me is a way to elevate a smaller team but it isn’t sustainable as we’ve seen before. Poch started to try to transition away from pressing all game and develop a more nuanced approach. We saw last season and still feeling the effects of Anges uncoordinated school yard sprinting press.

Isn’t it a positive that we have a manger that is trying to develop a side that doesn’t just rely on a heavy press?

s for yesterday we were closing them down and pressing when there was a reason to. And yes this like most aspects of our play needs more work, but it’s so much better than seeing Solanke leave himself shattered chasing lost causes all game.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Or…you love a good whinge

The issue was what we did with the ball once we won it back. Until the game opened up we rarely broke well or controlled possession. That is the issue Frank is working on. Not sure what your fixation with pressing is all about - other than one Aussie manager loved it. Is that it?

A full-on press for me is a way to elevate a smaller team but it isn’t sustainable as we’ve seen before. Poch started to try to transition away from pressing all game and develop a more nuanced approach. We saw last season and still feeling the effects of Anges uncoordinated school yard sprinting press.

Isn’t it a positive that we have a manger that is trying to develop a side that doesn’t just rely on a heavy press?

s for yesterday we were closing them down and pressing when there was a reason to. And yes this like most aspects of our play needs more work, but it’s so much better than seeing Solanke leave himself shattered chasing lost causes all game.

No. I’m just calling it as I saw it. I was at the Palace game and didn’t see us playing a press. We mainly switched between mid and low block. We got better near the end when Palace’s 3 games in a week caught up with them compared to our 8 day break between matches.

You say our issue against Palace was that we didn’t break well or control,possession, those are things that matter a lot less if you win the ball high up,as typically you are then only one pass from a goalscoring chance, if you have committed players to that press.

Not sure where you’re getting your idea that I have a fixation with pressing? I merely commented that I haven’t seen any real coherent pressing from us yet under Frank in response to a comment that Frank will use a press when needed. I also commented that I was really impressed with both Chelsea’s press and Villa’s ability to play through it in their recent game. Did you see that game by the way? What were your thoughts on both teams shape and football compared to ours?

Do I want us to press for an entire game? Absolutely not, it’s not sustainable. Do I want us to use a situational press? Absolutely!…. It is a great way to turn over the ball high up the pitch and create chances in the transition. Under Frank we’ve not committed more than our 3 forwards to a press and had a big gap from those 3 forwards to our defence, making it easy to play around or through our front 3, though on almost all occasions we just get into a mid block that then becomes a low block.

Our game against Forest was quite eye opening for me in the fact that Dyche was far braver than Frank, pushing his players into an initial high press, going man for man with every player was committed to it, whereas we always kept a\spare men back, thus conceding the initiative.

Is it a positive that we have a manger that is trying to develop a side that doesn’t just rely on a heavy press? It would be if said manager was trying to develop a team that can play in many different ways yes, but I just haven’t seen that at all. So far all I have seen is mid/low block football that doesn’t try to progress the ball through the centre and relies pretty much fully on set pieces for chance creation. I’m kind of seeing the opposite of what I’d like from a manager.