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The Cricket Thread

4 or 5-0 incoming
100% 5-0 white wash. You can’t win series with Crawley and Duckett opening the batting.

We struggled in Aus with two of our best in Cook and Strauss at times. So no chance with these two. Pope coming in at 3 also.
Our batting is not of a test standard. Our mindset is not test standard at times. Look at Brook great player but plays to many silly shots.

Bowling attack is ok.

So we need to start changing the way we bat lower down the order as we need runs from Brook , Root and Stokes.
 
That 6 over flurry, especially from our Zak, maybe be pivotal. Don't get me wrong. This test and series is Aus to lose now. Bur we have absolute super stars in line up to come. And they need to turn up. Also some luck

Cricket nerds. Those dropped short chances, bad captaincy or bad luck? I've just seen the short highlights but feels like too many
Sorry, I don't understand - why do you think a 6 over flurry was going to be some sort of game changer?
 
That 6 over flurry, especially from our Zak, maybe be pivotal. Don't get me wrong. This test and series is Aus to lose now. Bur we have absolute super stars in line up to come. And they need to turn up. Also some luck

Cricket nerds. Those dropped short chances, bad captaincy or bad luck? I've just seen the short highlights but feels like too many
Neither bad captaincy or luck, lack of prep IMO.

Going into game cold and you are not as fit, so mind goes and out of nick
 
I was wrong I guess. It was just an opinion though. Good starts matter in my ciew.
Fair play - Of course a good start helps, but it was just 40 odd runs regardless of how quickly they were scored and we were still 120 plus runs behind. The Aussies were always going to fire back and when the deficit is the massive amount it was, you need more than a nice little start :(...
 
Boland bowling so well. Imagine Cummins and Hazelwood on this track...
Looks like Hazelwood has had a setback but Cummins to return. Like you say we are away from home but these pitches favour seam bowling and our bowling lineup looks so much weaker without Jimmy and Broad and just bang average (kind of obvious I know), really need to unearth a couple of gems....
 
You have to wonder where the next generation are coming from with England, the only bowlers taking 40/50+ wickets a season are the 80-84MPH mob and Key has shut the door to them with a letter saying "unless you find 5MPH in your bowling you will not be picked"

Then the batting depth in England, well there is some about but its not massive
 
100% 5-0 white wash. You can’t win series with Crawley and Duckett opening the batting.

We struggled in Aus with two of our best in Cook and Strauss at times. So no chance with these two. Pope coming in at 3 also.
Our batting is not of a test standard. Our mindset is not test standard at times. Look at Brook great player but plays to many silly shots.

Bowling attack is ok.

So we need to start changing the way we bat lower down the order as we need runs from Brook , Root and Stokes.
I don’t agree, they have been good for us.
 
Think it's the bowling area that is weaker than the batting. The batsmen need to improve their decision making at times, but for me they are more talented than the bowlers....

Same, JA bowls 5 over bursts as does Wood, there is no one with the skill or control to bowl 8/9/10 overs to give them the rest but also be a containing wicket threat. Then you are into Stokes, who is a good bowler but you don't wanna rely on him

The Bashir project has to be the weirdest thing I have seen in all my years following the sport
 
Crawley and Duckett as an opening partnership ? Good ?

They are miles off a decent opening pair.
They aren't miles off, they have a good average for opening partnerships. Obviously not in this Ashes series, but if you look at batting opening averages internationally they are up there in the top 2/3 and play the aggressive way that our leadership wants...
 
They aren't miles off, they have a good average for opening partnerships. Obviously not in this Ashes series, but if you look at batting opening averages internationally they are up there in the top 2/3 and play the aggressive way that our leadership wants...
The only reason is because they are aggressive. Duckett not scored a run since India series.

Test Cricket requires openers to play the conditions , bowling and a patience to match a monk. Neither have it. Pope also.

Regards to averages I don’t think this is a great era of test cricket. It’s moved towards bish bash bosh like shorter formats. Very few top opening partnerships about. Needs a reset. 3 day games these days. Such a shame.

Let’s be honest who thought we’d go there and win a test ? I did not. Not this side in its current form. Only place it will win is in England.
 
The only reason is because they are aggressive. Duckett not scored a run since India series.

Test Cricket requires openers to play the conditions , bowling and a patience to match a monk. Neither have it. Pope also.

Regards to averages I don’t think this is a great era of test cricket. It’s moved towards bish bash bosh like shorter formats. Very few top opening partnerships about. Needs a reset. 3 day games these days.
It's all relative, they aren't miles off anything when compare them to other top international opening partnerships. They are far from perfect but the issues are far deeper rooted than our opening pair.

If memory serves wasn't Bazball originally bought in with this Ashes series in mind? If continues to go as it has done, is he likely to get the chop?
 
It's all relative, they aren't miles off anything when compare them to other top international opening partnerships. They are far from perfect but the issues are far deeper rooted than our opening pair.

If memory serves wasn't Bazball originally bought in with this Ashes series in mind? If continues to go as it has done, is he likely to get the chop?
I’m not sure really. He may well do. People have been fairly critical of the cricket we’ve played under him.

Exhilarating on a good day and very average for the most part. The later feels like the norm.
 
The only reason is because they are aggressive. Duckett not scored a run since India series.

Test Cricket requires openers to play the conditions , bowling and a patience to match a monk. Neither have it. Pope also.

Regards to averages I don’t think this is a great era of test cricket. It’s moved towards bish bash bosh like shorter formats. Very few top opening partnerships about. Needs a reset. 3 day games these days. Such a shame.

Let’s be honest who thought we’d go there and win a test ? I did not. Not this side in its current form. Only place it will win is in England.
it’s called bazball and they are a fit for that style of play and hard to argue it has not injected some life into test cricket which internationally is ailing.

So whilst it is pretty ugly at times but it has given us some excellent test matches. We just don’t have the strength to beat the aussies at home, rarely do.
 
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