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American politics

thfcsteff said:
The UK is smaller than 10 (11 if you count Illinois waterways) of the 50 US states.
You're talking about a country whose states range in all manner of ways and cultures. I always say it's worth thinking of Europe as one country to get an idea of the way things play out in the US.
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The election only comes down to a handful of states though, they don't even need to campaign in say California, New York, Illinois, Connecticut etc.
 
The citizens of California are voting on redrawing districts. It's obviously rigged and everyone knows it even if there's no evidence.

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P.D. said:
The election only comes down to a handful of states though, they don't even need to campaign in say California, New York, Illinois, Connecticut etc.
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This is where I respectfully disagree.
Technically? Perhaps.
However US elections are won and lost somewhere between the states of media and perception.
Which means you have to be both smart and pretty universal i.e. do the miles and make the running. Even in states where you might feel you don't need to campaign there's massive differences in the people (New York and Illinois for example). Plus you're not just talking about the Presidential race, you're setting things up for state elections and so on; as you can see today, these are now vitally important.
Of course you have to be smart, but what you can't do is be dismissive of any state, even ones which are 'safe'.
Further, I'd wager that apathy in certain voter blocks was very damaging to the democrats over two or three election cycles.
 
thfcsteff said:
This is where I respectfully disagree.
Technically? Perhaps.
However US elections are won and lost somewhere between the states of media and perception.
Which means you have to be both smart and pretty universal i.e. do the miles and make the running. Even in states where you might feel you don't need to campaign there's massive differences in the people (New York and Illinois for example). Plus you're not just talking about the Presidential race, you're setting things up for state elections and so on; as you can see today, these are now vitally important.
Of course you have to be smart, but what you can't do is be dismissive of any state, even ones which are 'safe'.
Further, I'd wager that apathy in certain voter blocks was very damaging to the democrats over two or three election cycles.
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I don't know enough about US politics but presidential and local elections are likely to be different, in Illinois they must have huge teams campaigning for the state house and the congress already. Does a presidential candidate really need to spend a significant amount of time in each state given it's winner takes all for the electoral collage. I'd guess they campaign mainly for congress and state elections to make sure their mandates can be carried out should they win more than anything else.
 
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JD was getting the treatment from Nick Fuentes too. The couch is gonna get it tonight.
 
P.D. said:
I don't know enough about US politics but presidential and local elections are likely to be different, in Illinois they must have huge teams campaigning for the state house and the congress already. Does a presidential candidate really need to spend a significant amount of time in each state given it's winner takes all for the electoral collage. I'd guess they campaign mainly for congress and state elections to make sure their mandates can be carried out should they win more than anything else.
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Perhaps not every state, but a lot of them.
As I mentioned, the groundswell of opinion which influences key states occurs nationally and includes everyone.
I cannot emphasize enough how important Farage's Brexit was to Bannon and Trump getting Trump in during 2016. Before that, generally-speaking, the 'system' you were detailing was seen as 'the path'. What Farage proved with his Brexit push and subsequent 'victory' was that there was clearly another way to the big seat. Objectively-speaking, Farage and what he did was (IMO) the game-changing face of global politics; before that, no-one really thought that sort of thing was possible. They'll write books about it one day.
 
Seems that winning a congressional election is no longer enough to take a seat in Congress if the Republicans decide otherwise.

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Adelita Grijalva swearing-in to Congress delay sets record

Arizona Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva has set a modern-day record for the longest wait to be sworn into Congress after winning a special election.
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The guy who desperately wants to make everything more expensive pretends it's not his fault while blaming everyone else.
 
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