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Daniel Levy - Former Chairman

Jurgen the German said:
Clubs that are in and around the top 6-8 should be looking to win trophies. I don’t think ever said solely trophies were the only criteria, just that they were the main currency of success, certainly for the biggest clubs in the country.
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Levy didn’t take over a top 6-8 club, he took over a club more accustomed to fighting relegation.

He made us a top 6-8 club, then he made us a top 4 club.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I spent ~25 years reading and negotiating contracts. I always read ts and cs. It drives Mr GL (and I thnk salespeople that we are dealing with) mad that I wil insist on doing so before signing up for anything!
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Luckily I had the companies legal department to go through all contracts with me, it use to annoy the life out of some companies who were tied to their standard contract.
 
Mikey10 said:
No doubt on that. I’m not criticising at all (just observing), but it’s very clear that this forum is quite an outlier when it comes to views expressed on Daniel Levy.

I’ve listened to a lot of Spurs podcasts over the past 48 hours. I’ve yet to find one which thinks that change wasn’t overdue.

The View From the Lane is, for me, a pretty good barometer of opinion; it’s populated by professional journalists, a couple of whom are Spurs fans, and a few who aren’t.

They produced, for me, a very balanced programme post-Daniel’s sacking. It acknowledged the great things he’s done, but talked about how he’s come to be viewed within the game, for some time now, as ‘The Mourinho of chairmen.’

He arrived into a world of clubs owned by sports company and carpet warehouse owners who also happened to run football clubs; he was the young disruptor who did things differently.

But the football landscape has completely changed during his 25 years at the helm, and he has latterly operated in a landscape peopled by nation state and (actual!) gangster owners - and he has struggled to deal with that (see this summer window, where there is plenty of evidence that he was completely played in the Eze transfer and, possibly, the MGW one too).

He has struggled to adapt. Other chairmen dealing with him used to be wary and fearful - of late, they just thought that he was a pain in the arse that they’d rather avoid dealing with.

The main thing said to me by fans of other clubs that I know over the last few days is, “You must be happy Levy’s gone.” To them, he had become (rightly or wrongly) a symbol of all those times we never quite got over the line. Time will tell whether they are right to suddenly be feeling a little bit more fearful.

Almost all of my Spurs supporting friends and family feel like me; grateful for what he did off the field, but happy to see change and a new approach to things hopefully coming into play - feelings which are very largely echoed on the other Spurs forums that I’ve dipped into over the part couple of days.

I’m not quite sure why this forum is so different in its opinion on him. One of the many quirks that makes this place interesting to me and keeps me coming back!
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If Danny Kelly and his podcast are the barometer then we truly are fudged.
 
kb 1984 said:
& who changed that
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I think I can take some credit for that. When I started supporting Spurs, in 2005, the clubs' wikipedia page said that we never finished in the top 6 and in the last 6 in the Premier League. We all know what happened afterwards, so yeah...

Jokes aside, I really liked Levy and thought of him as a competent man. I already miss him, in a way.
 
tommysvr said:
If Danny Kelly and his podcast are the barometer then we truly are fudged.
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I find him overly emotional - it’s ok coz he’s a fan, innit? - and struggle to listen to it after we lose - a game or transfer - as he can be unbearable. Contrast that with TGIAG, where I’m tuning in regardless, even if I don’t agree with everything…

Jack PB is largely pretty reasonable / nuanced though, which does help to balance things and allow me to challenge my own views.
 
Baleforce said:
Only if you ignore the seismic changes in the sport. And even then, the average is close. We've only won 18 trophies in 143 years. 2 in 17 is a rounding error difference.

At what point does a club become a not "smaller club", and have their chairs performance graded solely on trophies?
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For more than half of that existence only two trophies were available each year, not the 4+ there are available now.

Since 4 trophies a year were available we won 11 in 40 years pre ENIC. 1 every 3.63 years. That reduced to 2 in 25, so 1 every 12.5 since. That is far less of a rounding error. Fingers crossed we’ll be closer to a trophy every 4 years than every 12 years for the foreseeable future.
 
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Jurgen the German said:
Levy partly, I’ve said he did many good things. But the lack of trophies is absolutely an area that he didn’t deliver so well on.
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That's not all on Levy that's on the Managers & the players. The under investment if you believe Harry was Enic & joe who decided on how the money was spent. it's far to simplistic to blame just one man. Otherwise poor VV has failed before he even starts if Enic decide to not spend any money.
 
kb 1984 said:
That's not all on Levy that's on the Managers & the players. The under investment if you believe Harry was Enic & joe who decided on how the money was spent. it's far to simplistic to blame just one man. Otherwise poor VV has failed before he even starts if Enic decide to not spend any money.
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I’ve said many times that the players and the managers also need to take responsibility for not turning up in big games and for not winning trophies. Levy is part of that equation too.
 
One thing for certain never in the history of football have so many column inches or discussions on radio/TV/internet ever been seen or heard about the chairman of a football club. Levy has certainly left his mark and will always be remembered for the magnificent stadium that stands on High Rd N17 regardless of our trophy haul or league/cup performances under him.
 
Lemonade Money said:
You've included the 80s. May as well include the 60s to win your argument. What your graph shows, is that we were flirting with relegation in the 90s, then Levy took over.
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In statistics there is no "winning of arguments" mate.... this is called an interrupted time series analysis which requires reasonably equal time periods before and after the intervention being analysed. I understand it may not be music to the Levy out critics but the analysis is clear.... Levy took a team in decline, which could potentially ended up relegated based on the trends, and turned it into a consistent top 6 team....
 
Finney Is Back said:
For more than half of that existence only two trophies were available each year, not the 4+ there are available now.

Since 4 trophies a year were available we won 11 in 40 years pre ENIC. 1 every 3.63 years. That reduced to 2 in 25, so 1 every 12.5 since. That is far less of a rounding error. Fingers crossed we’ll be closer to a trophy every 4 years than every 12 years for the foreseeable future.
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What are the 4 trophies?
 
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