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Eberechi Eze

tommysvr said:
He makes many great points, hard to disagree with much of it. But that makes it all the more baffling to me. We surely knew Arsenal were always in the background -- why did it drag it on for so long? We (apparently) agreed a fee in the end -- could we have not done that sooner? Were we completely oblivious to Arsenal's interest? If we were aware of their interest, did we believe the player would choose us over them? If not, why didn't we move on sooner?

It just all stinks of a chairman and board who want to play with the big boys but won't take those final steps to actually get there.
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So we shouldn't go for a player because there's a bigger club in the background? I'd rather we went for it and if 4 out of 5 times we end up with mud on our face but the 5th time get the player it's worth it. We got Bergval even though Barcelona were in the background. You don't know until you try.
 
tommysvr said:
I don't believe Spurs would have been completely oblivious to that. If we were, that's damning. If we weren't, why did we hang around haggling for 7 days or so?
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Because maybe… and I don’t know for a fact.. that we didn’t move until after the release clause had lapsed and… palace dragged it out trying to get arse to bid again
 
DubSpur said:
So we shouldn't go for a player because there's a bigger club in the background? I'd rather we went for it and if 4 out of 5 times we end up with mud on our face but the 5th time get the player it's worth it. We got Bergval even though Barcelona were in the background. You don't know until you try.
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It's not anything like the Bergvall deal.
 
tommysvr said:
Then Levy is a fool for being played.
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I’m not even sure levy was involved
He was in the states after all for a big chunk of last week
Who knows
What we do know is there will be tonnes of speciation with plenty of bias to suit an agenda depending on how you see things (not you personally)
I read the Miguel Delaney article today and that seemed to be quite well written at connecting the dots.
I’ve also seen the links grow earlier this week to other players again which makes me wonder if we thought this may/could happen.
I know from various sources Frank was not convinced don’t eze (I live eze myself) and that nah be why things dragged on too
 
Muttley said:
Yeah, in reality Tapsoba has been outstanding for Leverkusen. There was no win vs loss situation there but, as you rightly say, fan and media narratives formed. I actually believed for most of that summer we would get both.

I think the difference then was that both names were being discussed for the entire summer. They were both long term targets and we landed one of them.

This time around, no clue as I believe the cards are closer to the chest. Would be great to get that one great player that can make a difference though.
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Wasn't it Todibo (now at West Ham), not Tapsoba, who was first choice ahead of van de Ven? It all blurs!
 
DubaiSpur said:
They have mate. The article by Miguel Delaney is pretty authoritative in that respect - they agreed a deal in principle for him 10 days ago, and our interest only started after that.

As per Delaney, Palace used us to get Arsenal to up their bid, but both they and Eze knew that Arsenal were in for him - and probably would close the deal if we showed any sign of approaching an agreement.

We did, and Arsenal moved. But the actual verbal agreement with Palace/Eze was done 10 days ago, which means negotiations would have taken place earlier this summer.

If anything, it's a lapse in our intelligence - we should have known this before going into the whole dog-and-pony show. Typically, that is the fault of the DoF, whose job is to maintain domain awareness of this sort of thing. Hence why I think Lange is cooked come window's end, and Paratici probably slides in afterward.
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If you believe what Delaney says then sure. I don't know if I do tbh.

Either way let's say Arsenal already had a deal done let's say. They then didn't action it because they wanted to move some players on. We got involved and negotiated until the cows came home but didn't actually get a deal agreed and then Arsenal decided sure we will take him once their Havetz news was confirmed.

In the end its just so Spurs.
 
Bishop said:
If you believe what Delaney says then sure. I don't know if I do tbh.

Either way let's say Arsenal already had a deal done let's say. They then didn't action it because they wanted to move some players on. We got involved and negotiated until the cows came home but didn't actually get a deal agreed and then Arsenal decided sure we will take him once their Havetz news was confirmed.

In the end its just so Spurs.
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I find it odd that a club is spending £67m on a player because a guy is injured who they have kinda already replaced with Gyokores
 
tommysvr said:
I don't believe Spurs would have been completely oblivious to that. If we were, that's damning. If we weren't, why did we hang around haggling for 7 days or so?
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Who says we were haggling? I thought they were holding it up until they had a replacement?
 
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Bishop said:
If you believe what Delaney says then sure. I don't know if I do tbh.

Either way let's say Arsenal already had a deal done let's say. They then didn't action it because they wanted to move some players on. We got involved and negotiated until the cows came home but didn't actually get a deal agreed and then Arsenal decided sure we will take him once their Havetz news was confirmed.

In the end its just so Spurs.
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Yeah that end line is the key. I'm all for the Jordan type balance and yes a lot of this stuff is out of our control. But there's a real theme running for years of us humiliating ourselves in the transfer market in a way other clubs simply do not do on a regular basis. We also went an entire two windows without signing anyone which is pretty much unheard of. We operate differently and not always for the better, often to our detriment and in a manner that so often appears to pi** everyone off. Yeah hes an angry Greek gangster but Saudi Sportswashing Machine managed to sign Elanga without all hell breaking loose.....just for example.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
13 pages in 3 hours! What's happened to this place? I expect the meltdown on twitter etc. (I swear some of the regulars on there are actually enjoying this because it gives more oomph to their Levy out campaign).
If he is indeed Woolwich bound and was holding out for them to come in with a bid then good riddance.
Sounds like we may have been played here but not sure what else we could have done (bid the release clause fee and Woolwich just come in and match it anyway).
Let's see what happens tomorrow. If it's dead we move on to the next target.
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Exactly… what the Actual fúck is wrong with people now days?

What ever happened to the infamous stiff upper lip? Keep calm and carry on?

and this is being said by a non English man.
 
Bishop said:
If you believe what Delaney says then sure. I don't know if I do tbh.

Either way let's say Arsenal already had a deal done let's say. They then didn't action it because they wanted to move some players on. We got involved and negotiated until the cows came home but didn't actually get a deal agreed and then Arsenal decided sure we will take him once their Havetz news was confirmed.

In the end its just so Spurs.
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But (if true at all) they apparently only agreed terms at the weekend (after the release clause had expired)?
We thought we had a deal (again, once the release clause was no longer relevant), then Parrish bought up some extra add-ons.
We worked through those and agreed a deal yesterday.
"Somehow" Woolwich found out about the deal value and offered the same yesterday (possibly with better payment terms).
Eze always preferred going back there, so having agreed personal terms with both of us, chose them.

If anything I could see that Parrish wanted to drag it out so as to have Eze for tonight's game, hence the extra add-ons.

I mean there's 101 iterations out there of what might have happened and none of us really know, but I don't think it was a case of us dragging things out in this instance (as may often have been the case in other transfers). Maybe we messed up or maybe we just got gazumped. Aside from paying the release clause I'm not sure we could have done this much sooner than we did (or thought we did 😂 ).
 
DTA said:
Exactly… what the Actual fúck is wrong with people now days?

What ever happened to the infamous stiff upper lip? Keep calm and carry on?

and this is being said by a non English man.
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Some are genuinely concerned I get it, I am too

Some didn't even comment on the weekends win and have come back just to stick the knife in and churn the doom and gloom, par for the course with some lately
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I find it odd that a club is spending £67m on a player because a guy is injured who they have kinda already replaced with Gyokores
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Because there is this revision that Havetz is a striker. Everyone is forgetting he's not, he's an AM/SS that Arsenal have been playing as a false 9. With the signing of Gyokeres, Havetz was likely going to be moved back to the 10 role/potentially rotate with Gyokeres when needed and hence the move for Eze now that he's injured. The belief in the Arsenal fan base is that Odegard needs to moved to 8 and a more direct 10 is needed ie. Eze.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Yeah that end line is the key. I'm all for the Jordan type balance and yes a lot of this stuff is out of our control. But there's a real theme running for years of us humiliating ourselves in the transfer market in a way other clubs simply do not do on a regular basis. We also went an entire two windows without signing anyone which is pretty much unheard of. We operate differently and not always for the better, often to our detriment and in a manner that so often appears to pi** everyone off. Yeah hes an angry Greek gangster but Saudi Sportswashing Machine managed to sign Elanga without all hell breaking loose.....just for example.
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It's never for the better. 25 years and two trophies tells you that.

If you work and perform in an unconventional manner it needs to work. It doesn't work at Spurs.
 
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