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The Goon Thread

They need options
Their squad wasn’t as strong as people thought
What I don’t get is why they haven’t signed Gyokeres considering he has already brought a London mansion for a £1m according to their ITKs
Eze for them on the left would be the smart buy. Instant starter and brings the unpredictability they lack
They do have PSR issues every summer though so I think they are juggling that balance

But then surely they have Nwaneri who can cover both Saka and, potentially, Odegaard as well. A biut like what Eze would do for their right hand side in a way.
Spending on Madueke surely takes funds away from Eze and Gyokeres, two transfers that would be very trans-formative.

It's like there is some kind of secret contract between the Arsenal board anbd Clearlake...baffling...but of course i love it!
 
But then surely they have Nwaneri who can cover both Saka and, potentially, Odegaard as well. A biut like what Eze would do for their right hand side in a way.
Spending on Madueke surely takes funds away from Eze and Gyokeres, two transfers that would be very trans-formative.

It's like there is some kind of secret contract between the Arsenal board anbd Clearlake...baffling...but of course i love it!
I think there issue is they can’t get what they want … money is the issue and Chelsea will do a finance deal that sporting won’t or palace wont
 
They need options
Their squad wasn’t as strong as people thought
What I don’t get is why they haven’t signed Gyokeres considering he has already brought a London mansion for a £1m according to their ITKs
Eze for them on the left would be the smart buy. Instant starter and brings the unpredictability they lack
They do have PSR issues every summer though so I think they are juggling that balance
London mansion for £1m?......

For that money you're looking at a London ex local authority 2 bed flat?

ITKs sloppy with the details, as per usual.
 
Circling back to Partey, and the idea put forward by several people (myself included) that the club ought to have supended him on full pay once he had been arrested - interesting to read this in an article from the Athletic :

"Alex Clarke, a senior employment lawyer at Onside Law, explains that opting to take action against a player accused of serious sexual offences would not be straightforward under current UK legislation.

Even in cases involving the most serious allegations and understandable calls for players to be suspended, the way the standard Premier League playing contract is worded makes this difficult for clubs,” says Clarke.

“The standard Premier League contract has been collectively agreed with the PFA (Professional Footballers’ Association, the players’ union) over time and, as a result, contains some fairly player-friendly clauses. In terms of suspension, clubs can only suspend a player for a maximum of two weeks on full pay. There is no automatic right to withhold pay for any period of suspension or to extend the suspension beyond two weeks.”

Extending the suspension beyond the initial fortnight would need to be mutually agreed with the player — rather unlikely if said player maintains his innocence.

This situation differs from a standard employment contract. “The world of football generally doesn’t mesh well with employment law, and this is a very stark example,” adds Clarke."

 
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Circling back to Partey, and the idea put forward by several people (myself included) that the club ought to have supended him on full pay once he had been arrested - interesting to read this in an article from the Athletic :

"Alex Clarke, a senior employment lawyer at Onside Law, explains that opting to take action against a player accused of serious sexual offences would not be straightforward under current UK legislation.

Even in cases involving the most serious allegations and understandable calls for players to be suspended, the way the standard Premier League playing contract is worded makes this difficult for clubs,” says Clarke.

“The standard Premier League contract has been collectively agreed with the PFA (Professional Footballers’ Association, the players’ union) over time and, as a result, contains some fairly player-friendly clauses. In terms of suspension, clubs can only suspend a player for a maximum of two weeks on full pay. There is no automatic right to withhold pay for any period of suspension or to extend the suspension beyond two weeks.”

Extending the suspension beyond the initial fortnight would need to be mutually agreed with the player — rather unlikely if said player maintains his innocence.

This situation differs from a standard employment contract. “The world of football generally doesn’t mesh well with employment law, and this is a very stark example,” adds Clarke."

read://https_www.nytimes.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Fathletic%2F6485525%2F2025%2F07%2F11%2Farsenal-thomas-partey-allegations%2F%3Fsource%3Dtwitteruk

Hmm, yeah i guess that does explain how we was able to keep playing through the arrests/allegations.

However, i still don't get why only once he's no longer contracted to Arsenal that all of sudden the charges take place, especially after all the arrests...
 
Circling back to Partey, and the idea put forward by several people (myself included) that the club ought to have supended him on full pay once he had been arrested - interesting to read this in an article from the Athletic :

"Alex Clarke, a senior employment lawyer at Onside Law, explains that opting to take action against a player accused of serious sexual offences would not be straightforward under current UK legislation.

Even in cases involving the most serious allegations and understandable calls for players to be suspended, the way the standard Premier League playing contract is worded makes this difficult for clubs,” says Clarke.

“The standard Premier League contract has been collectively agreed with the PFA (Professional Footballers’ Association, the players’ union) over time and, as a result, contains some fairly player-friendly clauses. In terms of suspension, clubs can only suspend a player for a maximum of two weeks on full pay. There is no automatic right to withhold pay for any period of suspension or to extend the suspension beyond two weeks.”

Extending the suspension beyond the initial fortnight would need to be mutually agreed with the player — rather unlikely if said player maintains his innocence.

This situation differs from a standard employment contract. “The world of football generally doesn’t mesh well with employment law, and this is a very stark example,” adds Clarke."

read://https_www.nytimes.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Fathletic%2F6485525%2F2025%2F07%2F11%2Farsenal-thomas-partey-allegations%2F%3Fsource%3Dtwitteruk


Maybe they can't suspend him, doesn't mean he can't be dropped from the team.
He's getting targeted abuse from the fans, that must be affecting the team, in itself that's a good excuse to drop him.
They chose to play him, that's the dodgy part
 
Maybe they can't suspend him, doesn't mean he can't be dropped from the team.
He's getting targeted abuse from the fans, that must be affecting the team, in itself that's a good excuse to drop him.
They chose to play him, that's the dodgy part
Agreed.

From the same article :
"There is another important question worth asking, however: did they have to play him? Football is a squad game — many players are regularly left out and their omission does not result in legal action. The likes of Mesut Ozil and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have previously spent protracted spells excluded from the team, seemingly without any significant consequence.

Was Partey’s ability as a footballer — and his value as an asset — given greater consideration than the moral and ethical implications of continuing to play him?

“There is no obligation on a club to pick a player for any match,” says Clarke. “For highly skilled employees like footballers, clubs are likely to be subject to an implied employment law duty to provide them with work to allow them to maintain their skills. However, as long as Arsenal allowed Partey to train and continued to pay him a wage, they would probably be satisfying that obligation.

“There are some FIFA regulations which may have given Partey a technical right to terminate his contract for what’s called ‘sporting just cause’ if Arsenal refused to play him at all during a full season, but this sort of claim would probably not have been in Partey’s interests given the nature of the allegations against him and the risk of making these more public."
 
They need options
Their squad wasn’t as strong as people thought
What I don’t get is why they haven’t signed Gyokeres considering he has already brought a London mansion for a £1m according to their ITKs
Eze for them on the left would be the smart buy. Instant starter and brings the unpredictability they lack
They do have PSR issues every summer though so I think they are juggling that balance

It's so weird, instead of starting with the upgrades, they have spent money on depth/cover
 
They need options
Their squad wasn’t as strong as people thought
What I don’t get is why they haven’t signed Gyokeres considering he has already brought a London mansion for a £1m according to their ITKs
Eze for them on the left would be the smart buy. Instant starter and brings the unpredictability they lack
They do have PSR issues every summer though so I think they are juggling that balance

Not sure you can buy a London mansion for that. More like a semi-detatched in a reasonable area!
 
Circling back to Partey, and the idea put forward by several people (myself included) that the club ought to have supended him on full pay once he had been arrested - interesting to read this in an article from the Athletic :

"Alex Clarke, a senior employment lawyer at Onside Law, explains that opting to take action against a player accused of serious sexual offences would not be straightforward under current UK legislation.

Even in cases involving the most serious allegations and understandable calls for players to be suspended, the way the standard Premier League playing contract is worded makes this difficult for clubs,” says Clarke.

“The standard Premier League contract has been collectively agreed with the PFA (Professional Footballers’ Association, the players’ union) over time and, as a result, contains some fairly player-friendly clauses. In terms of suspension, clubs can only suspend a player for a maximum of two weeks on full pay. There is no automatic right to withhold pay for any period of suspension or to extend the suspension beyond two weeks.”

Extending the suspension beyond the initial fortnight would need to be mutually agreed with the player — rather unlikely if said player maintains his innocence.

This situation differs from a standard employment contract. “The world of football generally doesn’t mesh well with employment law, and this is a very stark example,” adds Clarke."


Sounds like that should be updated.

And it make sense that there is some kind of mandatory course for these footballers on personal conduct. They are young, wealthy beyond their experience and education. It is an odd profession in that you make all your money whilst being the least experienced in life. So a quick proffessional conduct course highlighting potential pitfuls, responsibilities, being a role model, representing yourself and club etc wouldn't go amis.
 
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