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Silly McSilly Face said:
I started it? It's my war? What's that supposed to mean? Show me where I claimed Israel is completely accurate in their assessment of Iran's nuclear threat? You're reaching there.
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As in the ‘royal you’

You didn’t use completely accurate you are right. But accurate enough to go to war for…

Which I don’t buy for a second especially because I have seen this movie before… we all have.

*NOT OUR WAR•
 
djp82 said:
That’s the thing how high in the courts does the sign off need to be. Think the judges involvement was removed at a re reading of the bill. Courts are clogged up as it is.

Hence my feeling it’s very murky.
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Replaced by a three person panel of experts, to include a physchologist

I'm in favour of it re; human agency.
But after that I find it a very difficult piece of legislation to get right..
 
DTA said:
As in the ‘royal you’

You didn’t use completely accurate you are right. But accurate enough to go to war for…

Which I don’t buy for a second especially because I have seen this movie before… we all have.

*NOT OUR WAR•
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Of course it's our fudging war.

Simply by being part of a liberal democracy, we've been at war for decades. We're just lucky that Israel and Ukraine are doing all our fighting for us.
 
DTA said:
As in the ‘royal you’

You didn’t use completely accurate you are right. But accurate enough to go to war for…

Which I don’t buy for a second especially because I have seen this movie before… we all have.

*NOT OUR WAR•
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Who is the "royal me"?

I didn't say it was accurate enough to go to war for, I said that is TBC. But I also said the assessed reliability has to be considered along with how tolerable a nuclear armed Iran is assessed to be. The head of MI5 recently stated that they'd detected and foiled 20 Iran-backed terrorist plots on British soil since 2022. Iran is sworn to destroy western democracy. Nuclear weapons would give it the capability to attempt to do that
 
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Silly McSilly Face said:
Who is the "royal me"?

I didn't say it was accurate enough to go to war for, I said that is TBC. But I also said the assessed reliability has to be considered along with how tolerable a nuclear armed Iran is assessed to be. The head of MI5 recently stated that they'd detected and foiled 20 Iran-backed terrorist plots on British soil since 2022. Iran is sworn to destroy western democracy. Nuclear weapons would give it the capability to attempt to do that
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The royal you is anyone that supports Military action against Iran on behalf of Israel. On a war that they started under false pretences, in order to keep BIBI out of prison.

You got a link to the 22 Iranian backed terrorist attacks on British soil. Because if there is clear evidence of Iran doing that seems like we would be already at war with them. Or at least there would be massive uproar about it.
 
Still don't get how
scaramanga said:
Of course it's our fudging war.

Simply by being part of a liberal democracy, we've been at war for decades. We're just lucky that Israel and Ukraine are doing all our fighting for us.
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Not sure what war we are fighting here. The whole we thing is just flag shagging nonsense. How you find joy and excitement in this is beyond me.

Or you are just doing keyboard bravado as normal.
 
I wouldn’t call it flag shagging nonsense with Iran involved, they are a threat to others through their funding and sheltering of terrorists.

Not to mention of course their continued threats and aggression towards Israel.

That Israel are targeted makes it our war as far as I’m concerned, the UK was crucial in the founding of Israel, and had we stood up in the 30’s the reason for it would never have happened in the first place.

Sometimes you need to step in and smack the fudgers down before they are in a position to cause real damage.
 
Baleforce said:
I wouldn’t call it flag shagging nonsense with Iran involved, they are a threat to others through their funding and sheltering of terrorists.

Not to mention of course their continued threats and aggression towards Israel.

That Israel are targeted makes it our war as far as I’m concerned, the UK was crucial in the founding of Israel, and had we stood up in the 30’s the reason for it would never have happened in the first place.

Sometimes you need to step in and smack the fudgers down before they are in a position to cause real damage.
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You realise that the jews in israel were launching terrorist attacks against the british to get them out before israel was formed?
en.m.wikipedia.org

Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org
 
DTA said:
The royal you is anyone that supports Military action against Iran on behalf of Israel. On a war that they started under false pretences, in order to keep BIBI out of prison.

You got a link to the 22 Iranian backed terrorist attacks on British soil. Because if there is clear evidence of Iran doing that seems like we would be already at war with them. Or at least there would be massive uproar about it.
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Did I say i supported military action against Iran on behalf of Israel?


Whole section on Iran under threat from state actors, following on from Russia. And yes we've effectively been in a proxy/cold war against Russia and Iran for decades.
 
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Baleforce said:
I wouldn’t call it flag shagging nonsense with Iran involved, they are a threat to others through their funding and sheltering of terrorists.

Not to mention of course their continued threats and aggression towards Israel.

That Israel are targeted makes it our war as far as I’m concerned, the UK was crucial in the founding of Israel, and had we stood up in the 30’s the reason for it would never have happened in the first place.

Sometimes you need to step in and smack the fudgers down before they are in a position to cause real damage.
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Saudi has always been the biggest sponsor of terrorists. But they sell their oil to america, so all is fine.

This is purely about oil from america's point of view - same as Iraq, Libya, Iraq again, Syria etc
 
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