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Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

Who do you want as the next Tottenham Hotspur manager?

  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 14 12.4%

  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 10 8.8%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 8 7.1%

  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 48 42.5%

  • Edin Tersic

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • A.N. Other

    Votes: 31 27.4%
  • Total voters
    113
tommysvr said:
Glasner would be my pick. Frank would be extremely odd on face value.

But ultimately it’ll mean nothing. This board have proven they have impossible standards. We’ll be back here in 2027.
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Let’s just get behind the club no matter what … you could just support the club.

Frank would not be a bad shout actually. He actually seems likeable, has multiple tactics, makes players better … but working under a rather heavy ceiling with levy and co may be the downfall.
 
Mikey10 said:
I keep reading this - and yet we repeatedly (over 18 months) kept conceding PL goals in the first 10 minutes of games, shortly after having left the changing room, when his words should surely have been ringing in the players’ ears. We also sleep-walked through countless 90 minutes in the same time period.
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I’d put that down to the team setup. Players were motivated. Sprinting to close down the opponents - leaving big holes that sides exploited. There was never a lack of effort from the players tho. Which is amazing when we were doing so poorly.
 
SpurMeUp said:
I’d put that down to the team setup. Players were motivated. Sprinting to close down the opponents - leaving big holes that sides exploited. There was never a lack of effort from the players tho. Which is amazing when we were doing so poorly.
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I dont know, getting players to turn up for a hammering every week with no real plan needs some level of motivation. A bit like a WW1 general at the Somme getting all the men to go over the top and run at the machine guns
 
tommysvr said:
Glasner would be my pick. Frank would be extremely odd on face value.

But ultimately it’ll mean nothing. This board have proven they have impossible standards. We’ll be back here in 2027.
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100 per cent agree with Glasner. Has done it in Germany and now with Palace. Iraola, Frank to me are flavours. Glasner is a better tactician than those two. Palace would hate us massively.
 
SpurMeUp said:
I think Frank can do the fundamentals well. Can he bring players on, make them better players? He's taken some average but talented attacking footballers and turned into superstars. So yes I think Frank would help Solanke, Johnson, Odebert etc and help develop them into much more potent players. Whilst Ange was a great psychologist and motivator, I don't think he was a superb analyst and coach in that he could bring more out of a player. Frank I think does.

Then space, tactics and positioning on the pitch. I don't really need to say anything here. Under Frank we'd cover the space intelligently. The situations we were in every 10 mins during Postecoglou games where we're open and sprinting around madly to try to keep things under control, wouldn't arise under Frank. We'd cover the pitch in a much more efficient and effective way imo. The simplist way I can express this is throw ins. Amazingly under Ange we'd almost let the opposition have freedom to throw the ball to a team mate, mostly uncontested - because we didn't have an effective shape, our press left us at sea, it wasn't nuanced or clever (pressing only sometimes). Frank has a much more structured positional way to setup a side. This is the main reason we didn't win more games under Ange bless him. I respect Postecoglou's purity and intent, but the strain on players and the inefficiency wasn't working. So we weren't playing 'ange-ball' anymore. And I'd prefer a manager who has experience playing the way Ange was setting us up in the end, and doing it better!
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And yet what happened when Frank played Ange?
 
SpurMeUp said:
Don’t think he specified which season?

Our annual wage bill £113,581,000
Brentford’s £43,343,000

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It's Brentford's recruitment that is the X factor, and wage bill isn't indicative of the quality of the player - how much are they paying Mbuemo and how much were we paying the likes of Werner?

Anyway it is what it is, he will have my support but my expectations aren't much here. Back to the days of winning nothing and if we are lucky having that real 'buzz' of competing for a top 6 finish....
 
harr1984 said:
It's Brentford's recruitment that is the X factor, and wage bill isn't indicative of the quality of the player - how much are they paying Mbuemo and how much were we paying the likes of Werner?
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To state the obvious: was Mbuemo the player he is today when they signed him? Who brought him through and oversaw that development? And was it a one-off? Was it simply the player? Or are there other attackers at Brentford who went from promising nobodies into top class forwards?


harr1984 said:
Anyway it is what it is, he will have my support but my expectations aren't much here. Back to the days of winning nothing and if we are lucky having that real 'buzz' of competing for a top 6 finish....
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There’s a weird misnomer about this. If we’re competing with the best in the league we’ll be in a BETTER position in cups able to beat top sides. That was not the case under Ange in the main. Let’s be brutally honest, Ange was key to our trophy, but so was playing a United side who were as poor as we were. That is no recipe for success is it?
 
SpurMeUp said:
To state the obvious: was Mbuemo the player he is today when they signed him? Who brought him through and oversaw that development? And was it a one-off? Was it simply the player? Or are there other attackers at Brentford who went from promising nobodies into top class forwards?




There’s a weird misnomer about this. If we’re competing with the best in the league we’ll be in a BETTER position in cups able to beat top sides. That was not the case under Ange in the main. Let’s be brutally honest, Ange was key to our trophy, but so was playing a United side who were as poor as we were. That is no recipe for success is it?
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Keep hearing this success path being about consistently finish high up the league - well we had that with Poch, won naff all and then the squad went on a massive comedown. And now we just binned off a coach who proved he could win a trophy for a guy who to be polite, hasn't.

The real recipe for success is buying real quality players (and and much as I love him Solanke isn't that) - consistently buying young players with potential is not that and until we do that this path to 'success' people go on about is not going to be achieved and why no matter what type of manager we bring in nothing ever changes here other than the manager....
 
harr1984 said:
Keep hearing this success path being about consistently finish high up the league - well we had that with Poch, won naff all and then the squad went on a massive comedown. And now we just binned off a coach who proved he could win a trophy for a guy who to be polite, hasn't.
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If we were playing Liverpool in the final do you think Ange would have prevailed?

Essentially what you’re saying is you like us to step down a level so we can win stuff. Which isn’t really logical either.

harr1984 said:
The real recipe for success is buying real quality players (and and much as I love him Solanke isn't that)
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The ingredients are there with Solanke and I’d like to see what a coach like Frank could do with him.
harr1984 said:
- consistently buying young players with potential is not that and until we do that this path to 'success' people go on about is not going to be achieved and why no matter what type of manager we bring in nothing ever changes here other than the manager....
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Well you have to give yourself the best chance. And that means having a manager who sets up sides to win and can develop talents. Was that Ange? For me no. He wanted to make the big speeches but lacked some tatical depth. And I don’t think he was the best coach of players.
 
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