He'd never settle as a starter in a PL team looking to be in Europe - not good enough
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Pierre-Emile Højbjerg
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He'd never settle as a starter in a PL team looking to be in Europe - not good enough
SpurMeUp
David Ginola
The passing is a big piece. It is funny, technically Hojbjerg can be great. He can make excellent passes and he can finish into the corner of the net. But too often it's not instinctive. There's a pause to think and setup the pass. Whereas a Modric, Bentancur its a fluid instinctive thing. But we do underestimate how good he was under Mourinho. Maybe he lost some of the zip he had, but he ran game after game closing down and winning the ball. He's not a bad player to have in your ranks especially if he isn't flogged to death playing every game. I thought his performances dropped after he'd literally played every game that season.
You do need workman-like players who can charge around and ensure you keep control of the game. Hojbjerg has proved he can do that. Plus score goals. Passing isn't always crisp and instinctive. But Postecoglou will likely be looking for shorter easier passes.
Kandi1977
Tony Galvin
Totally agree. Vastly underrated by most in here. Honestly, I don't understand all the hate he gets! Think he's perfect for the system Ange plays, as he wants two of the 3 CM's to attack the area between the CF and WF's, and Højbjerg is probably the only cm we have that does that regularly. And he works his socks off, trying to win the ball back, which again is perfect for how Ange wants to play.
Unless there's an offer of 45m+, we'd be mad to sell him now.
parklane1
Vivian Woodward
glasgowspur
Chris Jones
If its within 10 yards of him yes he works his socks off, if he can point at someone else to do it for him he doesn't bother his arse, would be first out the door for me.
Opinions eh, we all have them, only one that counts is the manager, thank fudge for that.
Yiddo
Steffen Freund
It’s amazing what some people see in a game compared to others. He is nothing more than a moaner who doesn’t do what he is moaning at everyone else to do. You get one in every team at every level.
your point about instinctive passing is bang on in my view. I don’t see him being able to play the quick one and two touch football which Ange wants. He works hard but takes far too many touches to get the ball under control and then use it
been a useful player for us and given 2x more effort than some players but with all new managers there are winners and losers resulting from the new tactics and I’d see him being a loser from it. I’d ship him out as I don’t see how he fits in and, bring in his prime years, we could get a few quid for him
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
In an opposite way to players getting miraculously better when injured and seen as the solution to everything, PEH has the opposite problem of actually being there week in week out doing what he can for the team. And whilst he's not an anti football footballer himself he was first pick for the last couple of managers that many fans didn't bond with so there's perhaps a bit of a teacher's pet vibe.
In a typical Spurs fan kind of way, Bentancur would be up in most of our lists as one of the best CMs in the league despite his off games and the reputation is (imo) helped by his prolonged injury absence. PEH just isn't a fashionable kind of footballer to like.
papaspur
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I did think he got played into the ground through no fault of his own. It was literally every single match of the PL that one season under Mourinho, wasn't it?
I used to rate PEH but I don't think he's been at that same level he used to be at. For me, selling would actually be sensible as we can make some money on him and he goes to revitalize himself somewhere else.
nattenskonge
Drama queen
Damn ppl dont know brick… Hojbjerg has been one of the best players for Spurs this season. The stats say so and his overall rating say so. But we get the best player back in Bentancur. I hope he can stay fit this season
NoLimits01
Goran Bunjevcevic
Maybe that was part of the problem, last season one of our best players was Hojbjerg[emoji2371]
For some, like me, its not disputing his past performances. Its more his fit with a new manager's system
papaspur
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I just want you to know that by invoking 'stats' so much without actually citing them is making it even harder for the rest of us to use stats to further our own
Grays_1890
Gary Stevens
If its anything like the tackles stat I would fully expect a CDM who runs around alot to make tackles at the very least, not least more than those that don't. But where stats don't tell the story is the fact he is often easily transitioned with a simple quick passing which then leads to him pointing and wandering back. Works hard, often without the discipline you want or need from a CDM to truly help his defence by keeping in a shape and harder to break down, even in a system with managers that worked to his strengths
papaspur
Eidur Gudjohnsen
If it's tackles he's mentioning, then I wouldn't say PEH's tackling is any better than Skipp's. Skipp actually has the higher tackle success rate, and given that Skipp has played less than half the matches that PEH has, the adjusted stats are actually quite close.
If it's passing, I think we all know the story there. So many sideways or backwards passes, which to me is criminal given how generally poor our defense and GK were in terms of comfort on the ball. Only Romero didn't brick his pants when he got the ball under pressure and he was almost always looking for a forward pass if possible. Just a simple vertical line-splitting pass, casually done, that our CMs unfortunately were not able to execute regularly.
So again, I agree with you that he's not a bad player; he just chooses to switch off at terrible moments and it can be very obvious so maybe that's why a lot of us have picked up on his pointing or complaining to the ref with play still ongoing. Perhaps he feels entitled to that kind of behavior after playing so well during his first season here, which is why I think it's time for him to move on (but wouldn't mind him being on the bench either, but would prefer to sell so we can reinvest it on CBs).
In fairness to PEH (and I've been a big critic) he isn't a DM, he doesn't have the awareness or the discipline required for the role. He's much better pushed forward closing down and pressuring the opposition.
Lemonade Money
Nayim
One of the things I was looking forward to with Conte, was his mantra that you win a game in the last 30 minutes, like he did against us in the cup when he started Hazard the bench, and brought him on to win. I wouldnt be against PEH starting as CAM and Richarlison LF for example, then bringing on Maddison and Son to win a game.