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Vedran Corluka
We have not been loyal to Winks? How? Spurs hasn't treated Winks well? How?
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Harry Kane MBE
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Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Steff, I have no doubt that he has received some terrible advice and his gormless brothers is totally out of his depth. That doesn’t mean he has to take the advice. He is after all a 28 year old man. He’s not some young kid anymore. His brother may have told him “you need to skip training this week Harry”. Kane could just as easily turn round and say “ I can’t do that Charlie, I’m being paid to turn up to training and I won’t do that to the fans”.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
If there's one thing we do know about Harry, it's that he is a highly ambitious, extremely driven individual. I doubt any of his actions in this saga have been anything other than his own doing. I don't blame his brother but what Harry seems to be lacking in having his brother as his agent is good advice and representation from an experienced player in high value deals. If he were represented by someone like Jonathan Barrett, or any other top-player agent, would the Neville interview have even happened? There may have been an 'injury' at some point in the negotiations (negotiations that don't even appear to be happening here anyway), but Harry would have been able to keep himself out of direct involvement in the early days.
Aside from his brother-agent, he must have his own PR though? Maybe contracted through the agency but he must have a proper PR onboard advising him, including with yesterday's statement? The whole affair feels so amateurly handled that I can only think Harry is leading it himself, based on a message from Emirates Marketing Project to 'bring Levy to the table, and we'll do the rest'.
I really hope that if it doesn't work out (and I'd still rather we had another (willing) year from him) he can get his head back in the right place.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
The guy really is one of the best, which is why there is so much anger towards the situation
It’s got several layers
- Spurs made Kane, and he in turn took that opportunity and made himself arguably the best striker in the world
- We have had our best period in a looooong time and won nothing. Hence his frustration. But he is part of the team that won nothing. He played in those finals and semis so he is partly accountable. We as fans aren’t… yet we suffer too
- We have made Kane the highest paid player in history which is fully deserved for his status and achievements. The club would pay him more to remain so money out end is not an issue
- The club that Harry knows guarantees him medals…. Won’t pay what is the required fee to buy him. That buys clear and simple. People can argue he is or isn’t worth that fee, but he is worth to Tottenham whatever the club decide. Bernardo Silva wants to leave city, and I can guarantee they are not gonna sell him with a discount attached as he is a nice man
- The fans have been completely ignored to date in this “deal”. We’re the people who called for Kane to play all those years ago. We’re the ones who cheer his name and called him one of our own. We’re the ones who have suffered the most. We always do. We don’t get paid to support the club, or play for the club. We pay for that privilege in ££. Harry, bu not acting appropriately has really damaged that relationship with the majority of fans and it can turn ugly. We know he wants to leave to join city. We’re not stupid. Just act with some dignity and professionalism (which your known to be the elite for) and treat us fans with respect.
- The club here have played a blinder. I said it when I saw the sun report. Levy knows city won’t pay the fee. Hell pep said we won’t negotiate (that do me is they want to pay £100m and we said “no chance”). So we have let the Kane clan do their dirty work in the gutter press. And we haven’t retaliated or commented once. Being silent can be very communicative at times, and in this case they have nailed it.
Crab.C.Nesbitt
Gheorge Popescu
How are we not giving winks loyalty?? We're still paying his wages despite him barely getting any game time for us. We haven't fudged him over or been disloyal to him. He simply hadn't been good enough. And he has had plenty of opportunities to do so. As a club we are very loyal to our players for far longer than we should do (for another example see dier). We show more loyalty to and patience with all of our players then most clubs , and certainly any club aspiring to top 6 and beyond.
Kane owes us because we nurtured his career when others like city would frankly have bombed him out, and prioritised his interests over those of the club eg rushing him back for the cl final.
tommysvr
Simon Davies
We haven’t been disloyal to Winks, correct. That doesn’t stop the vitriol he gets and he’s the first on the list to sell for many people.
Dier didn’t come through the youth system.
If you seriously think Poch chose to start Kane in the Champions League Final to benefit Kane, not because it would give us the best chance of winning (forget hindsight) then you’re absolutely kidding yourself.
Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
The fudging nerve from Pep :
Emirates Marketing Project manager Pep Guardiola says any deal to take Kane to the Etihad Stadium "relies on Tottenham entering negotiations."
fudge off you taco! We're not actively trying to sell him!
It solely relies on you fudging making a somewhat acceptable offer!
What a fudging entitled son of a bitxh!!
Emirates Marketing Project manager Pep Guardiola says any deal to take Kane to the Etihad Stadium "relies on Tottenham entering negotiations."
fudge off you taco! We're not actively trying to sell him!
It solely relies on you fudging making a somewhat acceptable offer!
What a fudging entitled son of a bitxh!!
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Agreed, and an exit next summer for say £100m would work well for everyone.
We've have the chance to put the club back on the right trajectory this season and then have some cash to replace him
Kane would get a move to a team more likely to land big trophies, and also have more teams after him, meaning he can bid up his terms more
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
So is he proposing Tottenham contact all the major clubs in the world to offer them Kane or put him up for sale on Amazon?
Agreed. Club has done very well indeed
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
That not might suit City as they appear to be prepared to ignore FFP and accept a transfer ban for a couple of seasons knowing they have the team in place for that period.
Daisuk
Les Medley
Sitting there with his entitled miffed grin of a spoilt little brat as well - as if he's being denied something that was his. fudging clam.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
He still believes he will leave, imo.
The wording at the end of this statement, about the unwavering support from fans "during my time at the club" has a ring of finality to it. It's an odd turn of phrase otherwise, to my reading of it at least.
Could also be down to the statement being written by someone not accustomed to being specific and accurate in their use of language.
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Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
Yes maybe. But the whole statement feels very carefully crafted.
I always assume stupidity first - it's rare that approach is wrong.
NoLimits01
Goran Bunjevcevic
We should put in a £75m bid for De Bruyne and then whinge that City won’t sell him to us
Junior19
Øyvind Leonhardsen
Spurs, the club, has treated Winks well. We, the fans, have not! (some of us, at least).
For the last two years there has been loud groans at best, outright chicanery at worst, everytime his name is on the teamsheet.
I get the frustration. I get the emotions when someone we had high hopes for doesn't live up to the promise from the get-go.
What I don't get is that someone actually think it is going to help to destroy whatever confidence the player in question may have left.
People talk about Kane "feeling the love" from the fans. Well, guess what, they can feel the other emotions also. And it may hurt. A lot.
The problem with Winks and some of the fans is that most of the critique is circumstancial, emotional and not based on facts or stats. (I'm not saying Winks have made no mistake, caused no goal against, or anything). But whenever Winks plays, he can outperform whoever he is playing alongside, but the haters will still say he was brick. He can outpass them, with the stats clearly showing mixed passing, through-passes and diagonal passes, the haters are still going to say "he just passes sideways and back, three yards."
I'm not shy of giving critique to players. But I try to base it on facts, not emotions. And usually the facts are not what is in the front of your mind 5 minutes after the final whistle.
Many a time I've been furious after a loss or poor performance, and I've taken to the keyboard like the best keyboard warrior out there. But I don't press send. Not untill the day after, or perhaps a few days after, when the emotions have simmered away, and allowed the facts to start to come to the surface.
Oh, and "Winks is brick, that's a fact" is not a fact. It is an opinion without the facts to back it up.
glasgowspur
Nayim
Where are the huge benefits we've had from kane?
Show me the trophies (the measure he himself is using) or the money from sale of an assest at its market value?
At this moment in time we have not benefited from having harry than harry has benefited from being a spurs player.
We built a team around him (under two different managers) and it failed, partially because when it mattered he does not turn up.
He claims he can be as good if not better than messi and Ronaldo and yet no one is prepared to pay the money. He's how much younger than both, ask any manager which one of the three they want, few will take harry.
Everyday he is looking more like a deluded entitled taco.
