Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Time to start not letting boats do their own thing then. From what i read the tech is getting better every year like wind turbines are as well.
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Time to start not letting boats do their own thing then. From what i read the tech is getting better every year like wind turbines are as well.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
https://unherd.com/thepost/nobel-pr...-the-covid-19-epidemic-was-never-exponential/
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awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Where did you read that pearl of wisdom? Fox News
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
How Pathetic is Raab. No, no, no, those other countries can't count properly, so we don't have the highest death rate in Europe. What a complete lack of dignity, in trying to spin the numbers. Not only is he pathetic, he is also incredibly stupid. This is a consequence of the Brexit fall out. The cabinet is full of D graders with this idiot and the likes of Patel.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
There is not doubting that each country base their stats on a different model. There are also studies produced today touches on 10s of thousands of deaths globally none diagnosed.
Yes it is.
I had a dig around to ensure my memory wasn't playing tricks on me.
Under WHO measurements, the UK isn't even top 10. In fact, the only measurement I can find that ranks the UK highly is a set of opinion surveys.
It's the advice SAGE have to the government and is still giving.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
'Man in follows d.ick shocker'
She's in an open marriage according to the papers.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
At least something in this country is open.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Results speak for themselves. You've only got to look at the countries that implemented it to see their recovery curves. I'd be amazed (although the UK Gov is proving utterly incapable in this crisis) if SAGE weren't aware of the impact quarantining new arrivals does to the level of infections. Whether or not their advice is being followed is another matter.
Around 15 March the quarantine requirement kicked into effect. You can see from the graph on the right the impact that had.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
Sweden reporting the first case was prob in Oct/ Nov now.....
Care to step me through how quarantining arrivals in a country that is practicing social distancing can have any significant effect?
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
The problem with those charts is it doesn’t show how many people have had it.
The uk could have had 30 million have it and recovered from it which puts a different slant on those numbers completely.
Also looks like our peak was before the lock down.
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Which is why the FT and others have looked at average deaths, and used the difference to calculate numbers. They were doing this over a week ago (and you were complaining about it [emoji28]).
Average deaths in care homes for this time of year is about 2000 people. We’re currently seeing 7-8000.
Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
That's not what they did and that's not how SD works.
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
They weren’t doing that
They were including deaths “indirectly caused by covid” which is utter rubbish.
All that proves is we should have spent time shielding them and not locking down everyone else.
The graphs you are talking about are the ones that compared deviation in death rate as a multiple of SD (standard deviation) per country aren't they?. You can't plot those two items on a single line.
As an example; Country A has an average of 1,000 deaths per month. In Jan it has 1,100 deaths and Feb, 900. Country A has an SD of 100.
Country B also has an average of 1,000 deaths per month. In Jan it has 1,200 deaths and Feb 800. Country B has an SD of 200.
Now, in March both countries have 1,400 deaths as they are both in a pandemic. The excess deaths in each country due to the pandemic are 400 (1,400 - mean of 1,000). But if you plot multiples of SD as a few publications recently have, Country A is running at 4SD and country B only at 2SD. Yet both have had the pandemic cause the same effect.
Disclaimer - in a single data point such as this, you have to consider variance, as there's not longer term trend to show if it's a spike on SD or VS SD. The charts published recently show a longer term trend so variance will be inherent.