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Gerry Armstrong
I would have thought now would be the perfect time for him to learn how to balance and manager a team with established players and the hungry kids.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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I would have thought now would be the perfect time for him to learn how to balance and manager a team with established players and the hungry kids.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...io-pochettino-daniel-levy-spurs-a9147096.html
The results have left Pochettino under pressure but he remains calm due to his good relationship with Levy, who he considers a “friend”.
“We maintain a very good relationship and it is extraordinary to have that support,” Pochettino said at a global football summit in Qatar.
“I have always told him that, in addition to my chairman, I consider him a friend.
“Football is not a drama, it is passion and we cannot separate it from emotions. But neither can we make a sport as fantastic as this one because of the latest result.
“We must learn from defeats to be able to exceed our limits and that begins by accepting that you don’t always win and that the opponent also works hard and makes merits.
“You must always react with dignity to the result, regardless of whether it is good or bad.”
http://sportwitness.co.uk/pochettino-cant-tell-tottenham-players-theyre-s/
Spanish newspaper AS have a big spread on the comments made.
They’ve split it into sections, one of which is on player confidence, with the Argentine quoted as saying: “The player isn’t helped by telling him he’s s***”
A section on passion has the Spurs boss saying: “Football is a context of emotion. It represents passions, emotions, but now it has also become a great love, a love for madness. Football is necessary to realise our goals. Without football, we cannot explain emotions. They are inseparable.”
On the responsibilities of a coach in modern football, he said: “The responsibility for coaches is very big. You have to convince players and people of what you do. Sometimes you have to react as brothers, even sometimes as psychologists. What they expected from me when I arrived is not only football knowledge or knowing how to use one system or another. It is more than that to be a coach.”
There’s been questions in the media recently about Pochettino’s relationship with Daniel Levy, and he tried his best to dismiss the idea of there being any issue: “People can say that the relationship with the president has worsened, but it is not so. The important thing is to maintain this relationship and keep our respect. We need to know how to manage our philosophy to be together.”
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/spurs-boss-mauricio-pochettino-plots-20533208
Pochettino is scheduled for talks with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy when he returns from giving a speech at the Aspire Academy in Qatar later this week
They will discuss plans for a squad shake-up in January, with Eric Dier, Serge Aurier and Victor Wanyama all at risk, and Spurs willing to listen to offers for Real Madrid target Christian Eriksen. Pochettino is pushing for the club to renew their interest in Juventus star Paulo Dybala, and also has his eyes on Nice right back Youcef Atal.
His job is not currently under threat despite the defeat at Brighton coming hot on the heels of a 7-2 humiliation by Bayern Munich that prompted clear-the-air talks with his players.
Pochettino gave a “Master Class” in “Football analysed from an emotional context” in Doha yesterday and discussed his relationship with Levy.
The results have left Pochettino under pressure but he remains calm due to his good relationship with Levy, who he considers a “friend”.
“We maintain a very good relationship and it is extraordinary to have that support,” Pochettino said at a global football summit in Qatar.
“I have always told him that, in addition to my chairman, I consider him a friend.
“Football is not a drama, it is passion and we cannot separate it from emotions. But neither can we make a sport as fantastic as this one because of the latest result.
“We must learn from defeats to be able to exceed our limits and that begins by accepting that you don’t always win and that the opponent also works hard and makes merits.
“You must always react with dignity to the result, regardless of whether it is good or bad.”
http://sportwitness.co.uk/pochettino-cant-tell-tottenham-players-theyre-s/
Spanish newspaper AS have a big spread on the comments made.
They’ve split it into sections, one of which is on player confidence, with the Argentine quoted as saying: “The player isn’t helped by telling him he’s s***”
A section on passion has the Spurs boss saying: “Football is a context of emotion. It represents passions, emotions, but now it has also become a great love, a love for madness. Football is necessary to realise our goals. Without football, we cannot explain emotions. They are inseparable.”
On the responsibilities of a coach in modern football, he said: “The responsibility for coaches is very big. You have to convince players and people of what you do. Sometimes you have to react as brothers, even sometimes as psychologists. What they expected from me when I arrived is not only football knowledge or knowing how to use one system or another. It is more than that to be a coach.”
There’s been questions in the media recently about Pochettino’s relationship with Daniel Levy, and he tried his best to dismiss the idea of there being any issue: “People can say that the relationship with the president has worsened, but it is not so. The important thing is to maintain this relationship and keep our respect. We need to know how to manage our philosophy to be together.”
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/spurs-boss-mauricio-pochettino-plots-20533208
Pochettino is scheduled for talks with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy when he returns from giving a speech at the Aspire Academy in Qatar later this week
They will discuss plans for a squad shake-up in January, with Eric Dier, Serge Aurier and Victor Wanyama all at risk, and Spurs willing to listen to offers for Real Madrid target Christian Eriksen. Pochettino is pushing for the club to renew their interest in Juventus star Paulo Dybala, and also has his eyes on Nice right back Youcef Atal.
His job is not currently under threat despite the defeat at Brighton coming hot on the heels of a 7-2 humiliation by Bayern Munich that prompted clear-the-air talks with his players.
Pochettino gave a “Master Class” in “Football analysed from an emotional context” in Doha yesterday and discussed his relationship with Levy.
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StephenH
David Ginola
Yes. He has no experience in the squad regeneration situation with elite players (and that's what they think they are) at a top European club.
Name one manager with Poch's experience in the last ten years who have done it, I couldn't think of one? Ranieri
?He has done well. He will be a better manager for what he's going through.
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BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
There are couple of articles about our lack of press in the media this morning.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...tottenham-an-ageing-team-that-is-not-pressing
Not a Mauricio Pochettino team? On the face of it, it's an absurd observation. How could it not be? All but one of the Tottenham players who started the 3-0 defeat to Brighton have been at the club for more than three years. Half of those have been there for more than six years. That continuity has been integral to their success. Now it is a problem.
It was the fourth time since September that Pochettino has named a Tottenham team with an average age of over 28 years old. Having had the youngest starting line-up in the Premier League in each of his first three seasons, Spurs now possess the fourth oldest in the competition. It is more than a quirk. It's a fundamental issue facing this manager.
Pochettino loves working with young players. They are coachable. Willing to learn. Even when an older player is a model professional with good habits, he is instinctively sceptical. For example, some years ago he was left bemused by another Premier League club opting to bring in a highly respected ageing midfielder as he felt the player's legs had gone.
That move actually worked out but it's a revealing insight because, more than anything else, the reason why Pochettino loves working with young players is due to their superior energy levels. His idea of football requires his team to win the ball back quickly. A Pochettino team at its best is a nightmare to play against. Endless pressing. Perpetual motion.
From his time at Southampton, where he soon won over the squad thanks to the clarity of his commitment to a high-pressing game, to the transformation he instituted in Tottenham's style of play, this intensity has been the hallmark of any Pochettino team. It is the starting point, the platform upon which everything else is based. His philosophy.
Nobody would have recognised the team that turned up at Brighton as a Pochettino team. But the real issue is that this was not a one-off. There has been a change. Tottenham no longer press from the front. They are not winning the ball so high up the field and as a result they are not only struggling to create as many chances but they are easier to play against.
The number of pressed sequences - those where the opposition has three or fewer passes in a sequence, and the sequence ends within 40 metres of their own goal - has dropped alarmingly. The statistics show what even the naked eye can spot - Tottenham are winning possession of the ball in the final third far less than before and far less than their rivals.
For Pochettino, perhaps more than any other coach at the top end of the game, this matters. Ask anyone what makes Jose Mourinho a great manager and his two Champions League successes will surely form part of the answer. The same is true of Pep Guardiola, while Jurgen Klopp has now won major trophies at both Borussia Dortmund and Liverpool.
Pochettino does not have those medals but he had something else. A style of play that was unmistakeably his and one that he had demonstrated was repeatable at different clubs. It had not bought silverware to Spurs but it had maximised the potential of the playing squad and there was reason to believe that, with more money and luck, success was inevitable.
What now? Up until recently, it could be argued that older players were too set in their ways to be moulded into his modern way of playing. In time, those who grew up schooled in his approach would be a different proposition altogether, perhaps even the perfect fusion of enthusiasm and experience. Physically able to do it. Mentally ready to do it.
Tottenham's decline raises questions about the legitimacy of that logic. Some of it can be explained away by the behind the scenes issues. By players in the final year of their contracts no longer committed enough to buy into these ideas as they once had. It would be a mistake to underestimate the impact that this is having on this Spurs squad.
But it doesn't quite excuse the manager's role in this entirely.
Pochettino had pushed for an overhaul. No doubt he had recognised the urgency of the need for change. But after a long period in which it was suggested that Tottenham were a young team on the up, one still learning how to get the small details right, it is problematic to now conclude that he cannot make it work because these players are too old.
Lol....’the players don’t understand why they have moved away from the pressing game’. BECAUSE YOURE ALL fudging OLDER!!
(Although it’s likely still agents briefing and not being helpful, it just shows how stupid the stories are. Not consistent)
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
This really is the catch with these situations.
What are the scenarios?
- You stick with the manager, he pulls it back, live happily ever after
- You stick with the manager, he fails, you are forced to twist anyway later down the line (potentially with less chance of rescuing the season)
- You twist, get the right man in to take over, carry on the upward trajectory of the last decade, live happily ever after
- You twist, get the wrong man, end up in the situation you wanted to avoid in the first place (think Fulham last year)
Any way you cut it, its a gamble.
I think Poch is safe while the fans are onside, personally, and expect Levy to give him as much time as he can to turn things around.
IMO when (if) the crowd goes then so does Poch.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Eriksen clearly isn’t staying regardless. Neither is Toby.
I’m more than happy to have a season of finishing 6th if we can get back on to a good plane the next season. Given Poch predicted these issues and has massively over achieved, I think he deserves the chance to put it right. For some reason, a number of our squad want to leave. I don’t think a new Manager helps them renew their love for the club.
I also think Poch if he’s being honest with Levy in private probably feels massively let down by the players. They could have stayed committed rather than angling for a move out the first chance they got, and probably would have got new contracts that may have reinvigorated them with new money if they trusted our plan once getting to the stadium. I also think Toby and Eriksen are probably slightly embarrassed that they didn’t get the moves they expected, and that might be effecting them.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Seems like he is developing...moved to a diamond, less pressing, less his voice on the training pitch, short of sacking himself I’m not sure what else he could do.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Yes, well, obviously we just dont agree on pretty well any of this, so I think Ill just excuse myself now.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Tbf as others have pointed out, Poch would have a point re your second paragraoh if HE HIMSELF hadn't openly talked about leaving. Twice.
Some fair points re your first paragraph, but my point above might make even those a bit moot sadly...
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Tbf as others have pointed out, Poch would have a point re your second paragraoh if HE HIMSELF hadn't openly talked about leaving. Twice.
Some fair points re your first paragraph, but my point above might make even those a bit moot sadly...
Yeah...it’s funny, Poch’s slides in Qatar about the mood of the club coming from the coach, personality; buying into ideas, etc, it doesn’t chime with what he says in press conferences when he talks about leaving.
So I can only conclude, big mistake from Poch, or what he says in private is nothing like what he says in public.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
What do you mean "Poch's slides in Qatar"? What are you referring to here?
I appreciate your POV, but still think we could get top 4 this season anyway - With Poch....
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
He has moved himself onto the top level of management by progressing a team and club onto that top level......stupid him.
And we keep saying he has the same players, it's not like Pogba Neymar have turned up and we can see he can't deal with it.
Perhaps he should have not bothered with any of it...oh well he tried.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Funny conclusion to draw when many of the others (probably a combination) would appear more logical.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
No idea
SylDave
Jason Dozzell
If you mean he can’t manager players in their peak It’s not my definitive conclusion, but if you are to believe these articles that are becoming more and more consistent you have to ask that question, the squad are in the peak of their lives I can’t see how anyone can think they are “old”.
Whatever way you look at it and I’m not specifically talking about that article, it’s seems just about every important statistic has been on a downward trajectory for a couple of years.
glasgowspur
Nayim
The only doubt for me was did he still want it, those quotes would seem to me that he does and is willing to fight for it.
If that's the case I'm willing to stand by him and see what he can achieve.
If that's the case I'm willing to stand by him and see what he can achieve.
StephenH
David Ginola
Answer my question.
What experience has he got at the level and situation we find ourselves at?
glasgowspur
Nayim
The experience one would expect for a manager of his age and level of club he has worked at.
What else can he have?