Politics, politics, politics

[Baleforce]

lets not forget, the ONS put the numbers out there, immigration is good for the economy

it's not just the skills gap, a larger tax paying workforce is helping to bridge the gap in our fudged up pension funding

 

[Gutter Boy]

lets not forget, the ONS put the numbers out there, immigration is good for the economy

it's not just the skills gap, a larger tax paying workforce is helping to bridge the gap in our fudged up pension funding

Fueling the ponzi scheme, rather than dealing with it

Nows the time to start moving to a de-growth economy, dealing properly with post-industrialisation. Decrease consumption and production, while increasing wellbeing, community and culture.

 

[Gutter Boy]

thats what depresses me, the way people
think about it, the desire for a magic button fix for a complex series of problems

it's a balance gb, we're not going to see sweatshops in the uk whatever happens, we have laws against such practice, people are only going to move to be genuinely better off

freedom of movement benefits everyone immediately as it provides a larger market place to sell your skills and longer term as it breaks down perceived barriers built
on the idea that people are somehow different based on where they were born

I meant metaphorically about sweatshops. Do you think our Eritrean Sports Direct factory worker, or our Polish hotel dish washer, or our Vietnamise sex worker take home the minimum wage? Once all their charges have been deducted by their agencies/trafficers?

 

[Baleforce]

Fueling the ponzi scheme, rather than dealing with it

Nows the time to start moving to a de-growth economy, dealing properly with post-industrialisation. Decrease consumption and production, while increasing wellbeing, community and culture.

you can't deal with it by just turning it off

I don't think decreasing consumption is possible

 

[Baleforce]

I meant metaphorically about sweatshops. Do you think our Eritrean Sports Direct factory worker, or our Polish hotel dish washer, or our Vietnamise sex worker take home the minimum wage? Once all their charges have been deducted by their agencies/trafficers?

the "sports direct" situation hasn't normalised yet, things will have to improve for workers there, this isn't something that can be looked at over a small time frame

 

[r-u-s-x01]

Apparently in her upcoming speech on Tuesday, May will tell the EU that unless there's an end to freedom of movement, they can stick the single market, ECJ and customs union up their b0ll0cks.

So basically agreeing with the EU position, that will teach them

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I really doubt Brexit will happen, between the lawyers and the Labour party I just sadly do not see it. Great shame that but it is what it is.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. That was really funny!

As with all good humor the is the hint of truth in it.

 

[Gutter Boy]

you can't deal with it by just turning it off

I don't think decreasing consumption is possible

Millenials are already less materialistic. They are much more into experiences than 'stuff'. It's the baby boomers and to a lesser extent generation x who are emotionally attached to consumerism

 

[Gutter Boy]

the "sports direct" situation hasn't normalised yet, things will have to improve for workers there, this isn't something that can be looked at over a small time frame

Zero hours contracts, uber, the gig economy, deliverroo. It's coming for you...

 

[Gutter Boy]

So basically agreeing with the EU position, that will teach them

It will when the rest see us thrive outside of the shackles, and Nexit, Frexit etc. start happening. We are shattering the previously unshakeable dellusions of the priesthood

 

[Baleforce]

Zero hours contracts, uber, the gig economy, deliverroo. It's coming for you...

i agree it absolutely is, but at some point they will have to start competing for skills with other companies

 

[Baleforce]

Millenials are already less materialistic. They are much more into experiences than 'stuff'. It's the baby boomers and to a lesser extent generation x who are emotionally attached to consumerism

really?

you must know some different millennials to me, the ones I know are equally as materialistic yet don't have the work ethic to back it up

 

[r-u-s-x]

I really doubt Brexit will happen, between the lawyers and the Labour party I just sadly do not see it. Great shame that but it is what it is.

The tories have the majority you know - Labour can not stop anything - if the Judges state it is British Law that this has to go to parliament Labour still cant stop anything, the Tories hold the majority.

 

[r-u-s-x]

It will when the rest see us thrive outside of the shackles, and Nexit, Frexit etc. start happening. We are shattering the previously unshakeable dellusions of the priesthood

Does this shtick go down well in the pub?

 

[Baleforce]

Does this shtick go down well in the pub?

the chap with the flat cap and london pride who sometimes gets on question time says so

 

[the dza]

the chap with the flat cap and london pride who sometimes gets on question time says so

I can't watch Question Time. If I do, the audience make me wish someone would start a nuclear war and just get it all over with.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

The tories have the majority you know - Labour can not stop anything - if the Judges state it is British Law that this has to go to parliament Labour still cant stop anything, the Tories hold the majority.

Along with a handful of tory nutters and SNP fruit cakes they will stop it, just like they stopped the air strikes over Syria making them partly responsible for the carnage over there happening to those poor children. That is your all loving caring Labour party for you.

 

[the dza]

Along with a handful of tory nutters and SNP fruit cakes they will stop it, just like they stopped the air strikes over Syria making them partly responsible for the carnage over there happening to those poor children. That is your all loving caring Labour party for you.

So today, you are thinking that non-EU migrants can just bring their family over, no questions asked, the Tories will stop Brexit and Labour killing kids in Syria. It's an interesting world you live in.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

It is a horrible world I live in.