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OT Scouting

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Sean Davis
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I thought this was an interesting read about the scouting and selection process, tempted to get the book in fact. I can't imagine Everton do things too much differently to any other club, although having had a single consistent manager for so long without anyone above him i suspect theirs might be a more mature example.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...em-that-reveals-david-moyes-mind-8756011.html
Scouting system that reveals David Moyes' mind
David Moyes is not a man to cross on a moment's whim. He has a finely developed sense of respect. His trust, once earned, is of immeasurable importance. His professionalism is unimpeachable. His eye for detail is acute. His work ethic is prodigious and his wrath is best avoided.
Had he walked into Finch Farm training complex that bleak, wet Wednesday morning, he would have been distinctly unimpressed. It was bad enough that a stranger should saunter through the heavy door, marked "with permission only", which led to a sequence of four offices which symbolised the continuity of Everton's decade under the Scot's control. To allow someone of my calling into the nerve centre of a club which consistently overachieves in the face of financial restraint was positively heretical.
My guide, James Smith, revealed the compelling simplicity of a system which many seek to emulate. Appropriately, given the nature of my visit, Moyes was on a scouting mission in Europe. Thankfully, given my vulnerability, Duncan Ferguson, who has previous in dealing with unwanted intruders, was unaware of my presence. He was flicking yellow-flighted darts into a royal blue board in the players' dining room around the corner.
Smith, Everton's head of technical scouting, was free to reveal the science behind the School of Science. Smith has worked for Moyes since 2003. A sports science graduate from South Bank University in London who coached in the United States and worked his way up from Coventry City's Community Scheme, he was among the first wave of performance analysts who seeped into professional football in the early years of the last decade.
He was promoted after five years, when Moyes had the foresight to recognise the value of an integrated approach to recruitment, which embraced technology and made a virtue out of necessity.
"I think he was the only manager outside the Premier League to use performance analysis software when he was at Preston," Smith recalled. "It's not unlike him to want to have the best things and to be ahead of the game. Managers don't let people in very easily – so much of the job is about relationships and confidentiality, because you are working very closely with them. He was not looking to overhaul recruitment exactly, but drag it forward a bit. He wanted someone with more of an academic background as we stepped things up."
Smith operates from the recruitment room. Its contents are cherished and highly classified. They represent Everton's most valuable intellectual property. Moyes' entire transfer strategy is mapped out on a succession of whiteboards which cover all four walls. This is the visualisation of a principle, the distillation of a philosophy. It underlines the collegiate nature of his approach and the clinical brilliance of his management skills.
Everything is self-contained, yet inter-reliant. Smith has 5,000 reports stored online, on around 1,000 potential targets. They conform to a blueprint, which matches the club's culture, aspirations and financial status. A series of internal scouting conferences analyse trends and standardise reporting mechanisms.
Each scout must assess every player under the age of 24 at his match, and grade them on specific aspects of performance. Moyes has produced what he calls "an MOT Test", where players are judged against a checklist of up to 12 criteria for each position.
The optimal aim is to have up to 50 reports on a primary transfer target, written by between 10 and 12 scouts. The manager's commitment inspires loyalty and, it must be said, a little awe. Steve Brown, who took Smith's role as principal performance analyst, hails Moyes' "brilliance" in devising specific tactical strategies. The same qualities which make him a leading coach – according to Brown, "he's so detailed, thorough and methodical in his work" – make him a good judge of a player. The complementary disciplines coalesce in the preparation of a two-tiered game plan, which draws on detail contained in Everton's opposition scouting reports.
Steve Round, Moyes' assistant, has an integral role in its compilation with the manager. The main strategy, which takes several hours to create, is distilled into a shorter, more accessible version for the players, featuring team shape, set-piece analysis and opposition goals. Round enters the transfer process after first-team coach Jimmy Lumsden has followed up leads sourced by the scouts, and sanctioned by chief scout Robbie Cooke. Again, the principle of collective responsibility applies.
Smith admitted: "When I started at the club, I didn't know much about it all, so I've learned from the manager, from Steve and the other staff. In the first job, I was doing all the pre- and post-match video work, so I spent a lot of time listening and showing them stuff, talking about stuff. Doing all the team meetings, travelling abroad, was a massive chance to learn from David.
"So I've got an idea of players from him. I kind of know what he's looking for, what he's thinking. I'm thinking out loud now, but my role is knitting it together, being a kind of a link between the manager and the scouts.
"Everything is fed back into the recruitment room. Anyone can just pop his head in at any time. It enables the manager to keep absolutely on top of what's going on. That's a lot of what I think David Moyes' success is probably about: keeping on top of everything and checking, making sure you're on it and it's not just drifting."
The secret room is unprepossessing, long and thin. It has the feel of a teacher's study at a busy comprehensive. It is a mine of information, a tantalising glimpse of what might be, expressed in marker pens of different hues.
The whiteboards on the walls have a logical sequence. To understand where Everton are in the recruitment process, they must be read from left to right. The first board features the most promising new foreign players, highlighted by the system. They are the pick of the 1,000 or so players under review, and are deemed realistic recruits. Annotated beneath individual positions, they span Europe and South America. Trends are highlighted: right-backs, for instance, are in extremely short supply.
The next whiteboard contains live targets, who are monitored constantly. Their ages are written in red, on a yellow square. Those names in blue are potential free transfers, coming to the end of their contracts. Those in green are potential loanees. Those in red carry a price. There is an additional section, in the bottom left-hand corner, featuring three goalkeepers, who are seen as emergency loanees if required.
Some managers preach loyalty; Moyes practises it. The next whiteboard is a statement of faith in those closest to him. It features favoured Premier League players, personal choices who are not on any other list. They must be 26 or under, playing for a club outside the top six, and be regarded as realistic potential recruits.
They have been voted for by Moyes, and his senior staff. Four players, out of the 20 or so featured, are unanimous selections. That gives everyone food for thought. Time moves with terrifying speed in football: the next wall condenses the next three seasons into the five seconds or so it takes to scan a succession of teams, in Everton's favoured formation.
This is why the secret room is off limits to players. It is, in essence, a Moyes mind map. The whiteboard contains a list of all first-team squad players, with their ages, contract details and appearance records.
It starts with Moyes' idea of his best current starting 11, and what it will be, up until 2014. This offers an insight into which regulars he suspects will fade away, and who he hopes will emerge from the supporting cast. It is an imprecise science because of the unpredictability of fate but the gaps, when they appear, are ominous. This is a visual tool for the black art of management, moving a player on when his use has been exhausted but his resale potential is still significant.
Moyes does not share the elitist view that the quality of players from the Football League has declined so markedly that it is negligible. His personality was shaped in the lower leagues and he retains faith in their ability to nurture raw talent. The next whiteboard is smaller, and contains no player over the age of 23. The most promising Championship, League One and Two players are highlighted in blue, red and green respectively.
The last major whiteboard, the transfer window list, is in many ways the most important. This contains the names of players Everton are actively seeking to sign. This is the scruffiest section, because so many names have been scrubbed off, or re-entered, during the courtship rituals involving players, clubs, agents and assorted hangers-on. The human element will always be paramount. Peer recognition is pivotal. Moyes' brains trust uses individual contacts, including players, coaches and managers. Agents are regarded as most useful in South America where the web of third-party ownership can ensnare the unwise or the unwary.
Smith reflected: "The world is changing. In the old days it seemed as if they did everything off the back of a fag packet. The old school scout would go to a game and just have a general look, unless there was a specific player. He'd then speak to the chief scout on the phone and tell him what he thought, so basically everything was stored in people's heads.
"Well, they thought it was. It wasn't really, because you can't store it all in your head, can you? That's why reports have become so fundamental. It's about intellectual property rights. That information belongs to Everton because it was gained by people being paid by Everton, working for Everton. The old-school way, with the chief scout having it all in his head, gave no continuity. If he gets run over by a bus he takes all the knowledge with him. I know I'm laughing at that thought, but we had a similar problem in the academy several years ago. The head of recruitment left and there was nothing. We didn't even have the telephone numbers of the scouts! It was as if he'd never been here. An owner, or a CEO these days wouldn't tolerate that, if he's got anything about him."
Some things never change. Great clubs are shaped in the image of their great managers. It is too simplistic to view Moyes as merely an autocrat, with the inflexibility that implies. Like his mentor Sir Alex Ferguson, he wields power decisively, but sensitively. He is comfortable with ultimate responsibility – indeed he demands it – but the democratic nature of Everton's recruitment policy informs us of the man, and the club he has created.
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I always found his transfer dealings to be rather random and haphazard. Big money buys turning into utter failures and too many old players in the squad. Most of the young talents they've picked up in recent years haven't been very good either. Coleman is decent and Mirallas good.
 
"Moyes has produced what he calls "an MOT Test", where players are judged against a checklist of up to 12 criteria for each position."

Sounds like their scouting consists of rating players one to ten in 12 categories Football manager style!
And the weird obsession with whiteboards and which colour marker to use.
 
I always found his transfer dealings to be rather random and haphazard. Big money buys turning into utter failures and too many old players in the squad. Most of the young talents they've picked up in recent years haven't been very good either. Coleman is decent and Mirallas good.

You say that but given the limited budget, he's produced very effective teams even when he loses key players. He managed to compete with us with a fraction of the budget and very little to show for youth development aside from rooney, who was sold.

You're unlikely to sign world beaters when you're shopping at the bottom of the market but even when players they sign are flawed, their strengths tended to suit his system more than their weaknesses hindered them. I think that's key when you're financially restricted - knowing you're not going to get 10/10 players but ensuring that they're strong where it matters most.

The main big money signings I can think of are fellaini, heitinger, yakubu and baines and that record of two excellent, one poor and one terrible is no worse than the average pl club.

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who is behind the football manager stats? imagine just all that for a game for kids (or young at heart). I'd imagine that there would be an industrial strength version of that database that is sold to clubs for a lot more, and that would help a lot in scouting talent. it also provides an alternative for traditionally owned and exclusive scouting networks, which are about to be disintermediated. global player database + agents + youtube will be cheaper, faster and have wider reach.
 
You say that but given the limited budget, he's produced very effective teams even when he loses key players. He managed to compete with us with a fraction of the budget and very little to show for youth development aside from rooney, who was sold.

You're unlikely to sign world beaters when you're shopping at the bottom of the market but even when players they sign are flawed, their strengths tended to suit his system more than their weaknesses hindered them. I think that's key when you're financially restricted - knowing you're not going to get 10/10 players but ensuring that they're strong where it matters most.

The main big money signings I can think of are fellaini, heitinger, yakubu and baines and that record of two excellent, one poor and one terrible is no worse than the average pl club.

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Van der Meyde, Bilyaletdinov, Andy Johnson, Simon Davies, James Beattie and best of all: Per Kroldrup, they thought they were getting his partner at CB.

If you look at all the cheap punts, the success rate is low, like 1 in 6. Yes, they've stayed competitive, but also made a lot of unnecessary signings. Doesn't strike me as very good scouting.
 
Seems this might be out there to promote Moyes to the many Man Utd fans who are unsure of him. Based on the pre-season games and inability to land transfer targets, plus the Rooney situation, there are quite a few doubts going into the first game. Which is today, funnily enough.

There are many posts from Everton fans and in the press that call him 'Dithering Davie' because of the over-scouting and indecision.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/11/david-moyes-everton-manchester-united

He watched Tim Cahill 20 times before paying Millwall £1.5m for his services in 2004. The same applied to Joleon Lescott, bought from Wolves for £3.5m. The Dithering Davie moniker unfairly afforded him was merely a reflection of the manager's eagerness to be right, and he may acknowledge now that even Per Kroldrup, a Dane signed from Udinese in 2005 for £5m but sold at a loss after only two appearances a year later, might have been granted more time. Even then, lessons were learned: Leighton Baines and Phil Jagielka were subsequently treated more patiently and eventually demonstrated their quality.

'eagerness to be right' or inability to see it early enough.
 
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