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10 years since Brian Clough died

milo

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It's ten years today since his death. It seems apt to be playing Forest on Wednesday.

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The best there ever was, totally unique..a one off...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Clough

"In their first season after promotion Forest won the League Cup, beating Liverpool 1–0 in a replay at Old Trafford, and were crowned champions of Division One, finishing seven points clear of nearest challengers Liverpool. This made Clough the first manager since Herbert Chapman to win the English league championship with two different clubs. (Tom Watson and Kenny Dalglish are the others to achieve the feat).

In the 1978–79 season, Clough signed the 24-year-old Birmingham City striker Trevor Francis, Britain's first £1 million footballer. Forest missed out on the league title, finishing as runners-up to Liverpool, but made amends by retaining the League Cup with a 3–2 victory over Southampton and reaching the European Cup final (knocking out defending champions Liverpool en route), which they won 1–0 against Malmö FF, with Francis scoring the winner. A year later, Clough guided Forest to a second successive European Cup success, this time beating Hamburger SV 1–0, and a third successive League Cup final, though they were defeated by Wolverhampton Wanderers 1–0"
 
Loved Clough.
I would recommend reading his autobiography - its brutally honest with some nasty truths.

Clough is a great example about what success is - is it winning lots of trophy's at big clubs (mourinho) or is it creating something great by getting teams to punch above their weight.

From a silverwear point of view he certainly under achieved. But he (and Peter Taylor) also gave Derby and Forest overinflated success.
 
milo said:
It's ten years today since his death. It seems apt to be playing Forest on Wednesday.

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What a bloke!

Quite eerie how he says 7 weeks is not enough time to give a manager. It's quite commonplace to sack managers in far less time these days.
 
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“When I go, GHod’s going to have to give up his favourite chair.”

“I wouldn’t say I was the best manager in the business…but I was in the top one.”

“I regret telling the entire world and his dog how good a manager I was. I knew I was the best but I should have said nowt and kept the pressure off ‘cos they’d have worked it out for themselves.”

“His wife can’t sing and his barber can’t cut hair.” (On David Beckham)

“We used to go to the pictures every Saturday night but we had to leave a little bit early and get home and watch Match of the Day. My wife still complains she missed the last five minutes of every film we saw.”

“I only ever hit Roy the once. He got up so I couldn’t have hit him very hard.” (On dealing with Roy Keane)

“Outside the family life, there is nothing better than winning the European Cups.”

“Resignations are for prime ministers and those caught with their trousers down, not for me.”

“We’d talk for 20 minutes, then decide I was right.” (On how he handled disputes with players)

"On occasions I have been big-headed. I think most people are when they get in the limelight. I call myself big head just to remind myself not to be."
 
milo said:
267 goals in 296 appearances for Middlesbrough and Sunderland is a record that compares with just about anyone too.
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It's a much-overlooked fact that Cloughie walked the walk too in his career, so it's great that you pointed this fact out because yes, absolutely, what a record indeed. Would've been even more had it not been for injury I've read.

A fantastic character. Was he flawed? Yes. Was he brilliant? I'd say so. Was he unique? Undoubtably. Is he missed? Yes. He was honest, mercurial and a man who was clearly at his very best making gods from ordinary men. He won the title and European Cup with John McGovern as one of his key players, Larry Lloyd, Kenny Burns…unbelievable…

RIP Cloughie…football has never quite been the same...
 
thfcsteff said:
It's a much-overlooked fact that Cloughie walked the walk too in his career, so it's great that you pointed this fact out because yes, absolutely, what a record indeed. Would've been even more had it not been for injury I've read.
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You really wonder what he would have gone on the achieve without that injury. Retired at 27 but that was after two years trying to recover from the cruciate injury, so his career was effectively over at 25.
 
milo said:
You really wonder what he would have gone on the achieve without that injury. Retired at 27 but that was after two years trying to recover from the cruciate injury, so his career was effectively over at 25.
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Absolutely, I've pondered it many times…read several books about him and, of course, his own. A really great figure in football and someone who stuck up the for the working man!
 
More likely because they knew that they would not be able to conceal the issues it created.

The success he brought to two smallish, striving Midlands club let him rule with complete control and little dissent. His issues could be kept under wraps. That is certainly the picture painted by Duncan Hamilton in his brilliant book Provided You Don't Kiss Me: 20 Years With Brian Clough.

On the much bigger, far brighter stage of running England, it would have come out very quickly and ended badly. And when the corruption allegations floated up, rightly or wrongly, the FA's decision was certainly the safest one.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
Never seemed to inhibit his management of Derby and Forest. More likely because they knew that they would not be able to control him.
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"I'm sure the England selectors thought if they took me on and gave me the job, I'd want to run the show. They were shrewd, because that's exactly what I would have done." - On not getting the England manager's job.
 
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