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  1. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    I agree now, it is clearly not in our interests to get past the group stages. Use that to blood youngsters.
  2. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    This is a cup competition though, how many times have we seen upsets in the FA Cup in particular. I don't see us as a top European team as we have not proved it other than the ridiculous top rich clubs table, 2 trophies in 20 years, can we really dismiss Fiorentina. We should be one, we could be...
  3. J

    Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

    How do we dominate 2 legs but lose 3-1?? They had other chances too in both legs too, its too simple to blame the mistakes we were punished for. How was this going to be comfortable, we mess up at this stage nearly every time regardless of the opposition. We aren't good enough to play a lesser...
  4. J

    Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

    I think most realistic fans feared, we couldn't escape by playing a weakened team. The fact is we have now gambled on Sunday as our biggest chance of a trophy, I am a doubter but I still have slim hope that we might get lucky. I don't blame Poch as our squad isn't good enough at this level and...
  5. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    Maybe our players arrogance has come from the fact that our best performer, Kane, has started both games on the bench. Is our first 11 better than Fiorentina?? I don't know, how do you? they never played each other, The EPL is better than Seria A, we could say that with a bit of confidence.
  6. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    I think for me, it puts us in our real place rather than our dream place of being better on paper than the opposition. I hope it beats the arrogance out of us that we can be 30%-40% less than the opposition and get away with it. I hope if we qualify next year, we throw the group stage by...
  7. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    I'd agree with this, with our attitude shown, you get away with it in earlier games against Fc whatever but you can't get away with it with teams in our bracket or above. It is silly and arrogant and you get your rewards. If I was to blame Poch, its why he did'nt do a Redknapp and throw this...
  8. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    And we should beat West Ham on paper, but in reality, we were not good enough. Maybe, even for me, the reality of the lack of quality in our squad has shown us that we can't expect miracles, we are a team that struggles to get top 4-6 and when we meet a team with any sort of quality in Europe we...
  9. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    Cheap, they have wanted this more than us and its shown. We laughed at Arsenal who underestimating Monaco, but clearly our squad is not good enough for a tournament our fans think is below us.
  10. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    Maybe we should let our best players walk off and finish with 8 men so we can concentrate on Sunday.
  11. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    We are too good for Europa, clearly, if we wanted to we'd win 4-0 without breaking sweat. Italian football is useless and Premier League rules all with its money. We clearly threw the game with timely mistakes to focus on cup win v Chelsea. I hope someone has organised a bus to parade our trophy...
  12. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    Thats how he described it in an interview and its understandable, I'll support the team regardless and if we scrape past Fiorentina with the tea lady up front, I'll be so happy to be wrong.
  13. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    For me that would be more relevant if we were playing the cup final first, because if we go out today, we are 0 times as likely to win the EL than the League cup. Surely the bookies have Chelsea as big favourites for Sunday and our only chance at a trophy then is to beat one of the best teams in...
  14. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    I think we have put in the hard work to build our fitness levels to cope with this. We have rotated players too along the way, I don't think we be running our squad into the ground by focusing on our 2 biggest games of the season so far and surely managing with lighter training and trust our...
  15. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    I'd almost laugh if we put out a weak team in the EL and get hammered only for our rested first 11 to also get hammered on Sunday. I am sure some people here would be in dreamland as we'd have only top 4 to concentrate on and none of these distractions. To dare is to do...
  16. J

    The Goon Thread

    The Arsenal fans were so dreadful, barely any support and the noise when a player did something wrong was so intense with the generally quiet atmosphere that it clearly affected their team negatively. They drained the confidence of the players. Maybe players should be stronger, but Giroud...
  17. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    In fairness, we can't afford to be picky on which trophies we want to win, how many trophies have we won in the last 20 years?? Basically none, as the League cup is beneath us and nobody cares about it. You see how English teams struggle in Europe, we should be using these games as a big...
  18. J

    Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

    IMO, I feel its more when we are losing and teams sit back. When teams are just sitting back, how do we break them down. 2 things for me are, as others have said, set pieces. We don't look effective at indirect frees or corners almost to the point we seem to take short ones now. Poor delivery...
  19. J

    *** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Fiorentina 2nd leg ***

    Maybe I am being a bit naive here, but we have to go for it against Fiorentina. We have sacrificed for EL, yes, we have put in a lot of extra matches, yes but in many ways the hard work has been put in. But what was the point if we "throw" this game in favour of a game we are hardly favourites...
  20. J

    Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

    Any read this article on Dortmund this season, it is interesting how a couple of points cross over to us. "As a result, possession becomes less important than the moment the opposition loses possession" I know that in some games we are good in possession but in others we literally give the...
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