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The Case for the Attacking play

Bedfordspurs said:
Teams aren’t scared of us at all
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And why should they be. We take an age to get the ball out of our half and when the forwards do eventually get it, well, they’re crap so more often than not they won’t do anything with it unless it’s Kudus. I honestly think our forwards are bottom half quality and that’s being polite.
 
Jurgen the German said:
And why should they be. We take an age to get the ball out of our half and when the forwards do eventually get it, well, they’re crap so more often than not they won’t do anything with it unless it’s Kudus. I honestly think our forwards are bottom half quality and that’s being polite.
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I think it’s massively about tactics and intent
You could have Kane and son up top and it would be like the football under clame but still so so basic
 
Jurgen the German said:
Kane and Son could still get you a goal out of nothing. No chance of that from our forwards. Our forwards are crap. We scored loads under Ange because of his gung ho tactics.
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But that’s because they are world class players
They are rare and there really aren’t many anymore
So your manager has to adapt to what he has
That’s his job
If fans think we will only look good when we have better players then what is the point of a coach
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But that’s because they are world class players
They are rare and there really aren’t many anymore
So your manager has to adapt to what he has
That’s his job
If fans think we will only look good when we have better players then what is the point of a coach
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Fair point about coaching. A good coach should make players better. But there will be limitations with the forwards we have because they are just not very good.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Fair point about coaching. A good coach should make players better. But there will be limitations with the forwards we have because they are just not very good.
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So adapt to what you have
Ange got us playing attacking football all at all costs
Frank has is playing defensive football at all costs
The coaches should adapt
That’s as true for Ange and he lost his job because of it
 
harr1984 said:
Just don't think any sort of pragmatic manager will ever work at this club, it just doesn't fit with our fans or seemingly the players in the long run. Really hoping Frank can turn this around because right now what we are seeing is the concerns I expressed from the start.

As has been said already, he's not at Brentford this club is a different kettle of fish - from the expectations of the fans (and ultimately patience) to how teams will come and setup against us it is all so different. I hope Frank is a quick learner because otherwise this will not end up being pretty....
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There is no reason he can't be a success but he needs to adapt and not necessarily change stuff for no reason. I'm still trying to understand why Bergvall is no longer centre mid
 
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Manager in the video has a attacking philosophy and set the team up to go forward and they frequently done the same brick. If an attacking manager struggled to get Tottenham to play offensively maybe it's more than simply the tactics.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t want attacking play
I want a balance
We’re getting veg with no trimmings
My missus is a master of the Sunday roast but no cheese sauce is a failure
I expect it because she does it well… and I know that because historically she showed me that … that’s partly why I married her
If you show what good is… you can’t then just be brick an expect compliments
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I dont know whats more worrying, the comparison between A Sunday roast and attacking football or the fact you married your wife because she cooks a decent yorkshire pudding.
 
Stiff_Swede said:
We have had like 7(?) managers since Poccetino I refuse to believe all these managers are clueless idiots. It is the same as Man U all the coaches they have been through are not useless managers. It's the quality of players!

The players are professionals they should know how to pass the ball or cross the ball to a Spurs player or put three passes together to create an attack without a manager.

If Romero, VdV are out the team will fall apart! And if Kudus is out the rest of the attack is just not good enough, Palhinha out and teams will cut through us in the middle.

This match VdV and Kudus both had stinkers and Romero was on the bench, then it will look like this.

Frank cannot teach Porro how to pass the ball 5m or tell Brennan to dribble a defender, they should know how to do that at this level!
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It's obviously a mix of issues with the system and with limitations of the players.

There are real shortcomings in terms of technical quality to progress the ball well under pressure at the back and in midfield. Particularly when Romero is out and Porro is having an off day (I'm assuming it's a result of him playing a hell of a lot).

But it's also the case that the system so far is very much handbrake on. Weighted quite heavily towards avoiding risks, playing it simple, being in position to stop a counter attack if we lose it.
 
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