OMT - Tottenham Hotspur - Leicester City

[StephenH]

What good is Possesion with no edge

It's been like this for some little while - why I am keeping any expectations this season a little tempered.

 

[Yoof]

I think it's the new 4-1-4-1 formation and slow pace.

We haven't played 4141 for a few weeks have we? Not since Dembele came back.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

The trend is we're drawing too many games and struggling to score/create chances.

We're crating chances but not besscarily good ones

We give defenders too much time too IMO

No zip or spark

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We haven't played 4141 for a few weeks have we? Not since Dembele came back.

And Dembele was brilliant today but arguably not needed

 

[Mulletperm]

There are times I feel we're trying to walk it into the net instead of having a crack.

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

The trend is we're drawing too many games and struggling to score/create chances.

In the short term yes. But we're looking at that from the POV of just the last 3 games really. Look at all evidence and we'd won, what, four in a row prior to this mini-run of draws? Sure, I'd love to have won, but this result isn't season-defining. It's not back to the drawing board, we don't need to reassess Poch as a manager. We just need to stand firm, keep working and it'll come.

We're doing better than last season. We're hard to beat. We pick up points when we're not at our best. We've got Kane and Toby to come back. We're really well placed.

 

[Daisuk]

We're crating chances but not besscarily good ones

We give defenders too much time too IMO

No zip or spark

Yeah. We lack the cutting edge we had last season. Always looked likely to score. We don't do so now.

 

[Hemant]

Yeah you keep saying that to yourself and watch a top four spot recede further and further into the distance.

Yes, but the toys will be safe in the pram?

Why bother trying to improve, after all it's not as if the oppo know our formula?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

There are times I feel we're trying to walk it into the net instead of having a crack.

Bingo

 

[monkeybarry]

We haven't played 4141 for a few weeks have we? Not since Dembele came back.

It still seems like it, the way we play the ball slowly side to side across the defence and DM, then into what seems like a static front five - it's probably more a phase of play thing, but we close down our own space by being too slow and have too many bodies 20-35 yards from the opposition goal

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

Nothing is receding anywhere in October.

Don't microreact to every result. Observe the trend.

The trend is that we are going backwards, or haven't you noticed?

 

[StephenH]

We are all frustrated but not many can be too surprised.

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

The trend is that we are going backwards, or haven't you noticed?

Backwards compared to what?

The prior run of games where we won four in a row? Sure, absolutely - talking a tiny sample size like that then yes. But I'd argue that's not really a trend at all. Trends are longer term than that and I believe they tell you more than snapshot. I think you're talking about a snapshot.

We're 3 points off top spot after 10 games yet it feels like the sky is falling in. The baby's in danger of going with the bath water.

 

[alekaras]

I don't think so. Arsenal move the ball, very, very quickly, whilst we are ponderous and predicable. That's it folks, nothing more to see here.

Nail. On. The. Head.

That's really it. We move the ball too slowly in the final third, thus allowing teams to set up against us. We need to move it faster, even if it means half the time we'll misplace passes. The other half, at least, we'll carve them open.

 

[Hemant]

Didn't say they were. Just that it's false to say we lacked intent to win the game.

Is the discussion about intent or is it progress or quality of performance?
You can't argue that we have got better in terms of making and taking chances cf to last season or even parts of this.
It may be that our unbeaten run is making us a little less adventurous, I think we want to win but we may be not want o lose more right now. The climatic trend is that when the pressure is on, we tend to muck up, with odd exceptions, is that acceppptable?

 

[Baleforce]

We are all frustrated but not many can be too surprised.

I am, i thought we'd give them a pasting today, they are brick.

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

Backwards compared to what?

The prior run of games where we won four in a row? Sure, absolutely - talking a tiny sample size like that then yes. But I'd argue that's not really a trend at all. Trends are longer term than that and I believe they tell you more than snapshot. I think you're talking about a snapshot.

We're 3 points off top spot after 10 games yet it feels like the sky is falling in. The baby's in danger of going with the bath water.

For fudges sake look at the table man...backwards, you know descending down the table. Have you had a look at our next run of games?

 

[Jordinho]

For fudges sake look at the table man...backwards, you know descending down the table. Have you had a look at our next run of games?

We climbed one place today.

 

[Baleforce]

Is the discussion about intent or is it progress or quality of performance?
You can't argue that we have got better in terms of making and taking chances cf to last season or even parts of this.
It may be that our unbeaten run is making us a little less adventurous, I think we want to win but we may be not want o lose more right now. The climatic trend is that when the pressure is on, we tend to muck up, with odd exceptions, is that acceppptable?

I started it, I said I wasn't happy with the reaction to gifting them a goal, I'd have liked us to rip them apart for their audacity and score 7 like United did in the good old days under Fergie.

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

We climbed one place today.

Our rivals haven't played yet.