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Hugo Lloris

skyfarer said:
Lloris isn't remarkable for his shotstopping so much as his reading of the game. He has a pretty unique talent for preventing shots against him before they're made, which is also why he tends not to get many plaudits from outsiders - because he doesn't get as many chances to make flashy reflex saves like de Gea or Mignolet.
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Nevertheless, he has the reputation to be a very good keeper on his line and a very good shot stopper maybe better than De Gea...

You are not impressed, because his season is only decent.

I am French, so I know him well and I can say to you he is bad on his line this season and totally not impressive.

His only fantastic season it was in 2009-2010 when he took Lyon in semi-final of the CL. Many french wait he will find this level.
 
Better than a broken arm I guess... :~ Oh well, I guess at least Brad is kind of match fit thanks to Europa.
 
Same here. I love AVB but I don't like how he's stubborn on playing the same system even if he doesn't have the right players for it. The Inter game was embarrassing.
 
Rossi22 said:
Same here. I love AVB but I don't like how he's stubborn on playing the same system even if he doesn't have the right players for it. The Inter game was embarrassing.
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As opposed to playing a system we haven't been practising?


It's lose/lose really.
 
probably should have the side somewhat familiar with an alternative defensive set up for when Brad is picked tbf
 
we will need to defend deeper. anything with a highline , win or lose , quite frankly IMO i would consider quite brash and naive from AVB
 
africanspurs said:
we will need to defend deeper. anything with a highline , win or lose , quite frankly IMO i would consider quite brash and naive from AVB
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Interesting. So if the high line negates Swansea's threat it would still be considered 'brash and naive'?


:ross:



If it negates Swansea's threat then it was the right thing to do. Three points is what matters. If the manager gets us that i'll be happy with his work.
 
Spursalot said:
Interesting. So if the high line negates Swansea's threat it would still be considered 'brash and naive'?


:ross:



If it negates Swansea's threat then it was the right thing to do. Three points is what matters. If the manager gets us that i'll be happy with his work.
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laugh all you want but yes, it would be. you cant base your thoughts, well actually in your case you probably would, on events after they have occurred, its got to be before. and right now, quite frankly its stupid to play a high line without someone that can read the space and movement in behind the defense, especially when the defense is prone to letting things slip by...not to mention that swansea actually have people that can break behind the line and our midfield has had issues closing down passers recently.

he tried it at chelsea and it tanked. but sure he should do something similar without the right personell because IF it works then after the fact its the right thing to do.

not for me, if i played a highline against barca without the right personell, win or lose i would have considered the move brash and naive
 
africanspurs said:
laugh all you want but yes, it would be. you cant base your thoughts, well actually in your case you probably would, on events after they have occurred, its got to be before. and right now, quite frankly its stupid to play a high line without someone that can read the space and movement in behind the defense, especially when the defense is prone to letting things slip by...not to mention that swansea actually have people that can break behind the line and our midfield has had issues closing down passers recently.

he tried it at chelsea and it tanked. but sure he should do something similar without the right personell because IF it works then after the fact its the right thing to do.

not for me, if i played a highline against barca without the right personell, win or lose i would have considered the move brash and naive
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We should base our thoughts on things before they have occurred? Right then, i'll just go and start the post match ratings thread, there's no point in waiting to do it, Africanspurs says the match shouldn't cloud our judgements.


If AVB has looked at Swansea's match tapes and decided that the high line will be the best move to stop them creating goal scoring chances, then we would go ahead and use it. It would make perfect sense to do so. Brad did pretty excellently with the high line against Inter Milan, so not having the personnel is imo gonad*s.
 
Spursalot said:
We should base our thoughts on things before they have occurred? Right then, i'll just go and start the post match ratings thread, there's no point in waiting to do it, Africanspurs says the match shouldn't cloud our judgements.


If AVB has looked at Swansea's match tapes and decided that the high line will be the best move to stop them creating goal scoring chances, then we would go ahead and use it. It would make perfect sense to do so. Brad did pretty excellently with the high line against Inter Milan, so not having the personnel is imo gonad*s.
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you would have to be quite ignorant of the space and operating room in behind the defense before the goal keeper comes into play during the inter game. Brad did okay but for a high line Lloris would have been better.....no question in my mind where once i did have them. infact i would suspect that the only reason why brad did okay was because of looking at lloris

and yes, i would say that most people that have their own mindset and have some level of conviction on any subject would be able to form opinions before they the actions. although if you would start a post match thread before a game has been played then your either a time traveller or you're something else....which doesnt even come to mind. it doesnt surprise me that there are many that would only have an opinion of something only after the result and would probably play it safe prior...most people do that....including me. I'm not having that vibe right now and i think if you have a big gap between your keeper and the back line , if your midfield have let you down recently pressing the opposition and if you are playing a passing team with players that can break a line...then playing a high line regardless of what you are facing is brash and naive

feel free to go and start a post match thread full of ratings and results though

and we go beat 4-1 against inter..where the defensive set up of the team, not just brad, was a shambles. but yeah, that was a bad idea in your opinion surely, given it happened after you can say this . incidentally prior to the game i would have thought the idea was sound, but with a 5 man midifeld rather than 4. which at 3-0 up i would consider would have been sensible as opposed to going for the jugular...but still sqeezing inter would have been the right thing as a game plan
 
Spursalot said:
I know that whenever Brad has played this season we have played a high line.


There is no evidence we have been practising a deep line.
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so you dont actually know then.? okay at least that bit's covered

early part of the season the line that we are playing now has not been as high as recently...infact i think it was quite withdrawn early on.....i didnt see the massive difference i see now in the beginning of the season compared to last season. IMO the idea that we have been playing this high line all season is a little off key.

perhaps not having the personnel is the wrong choice of words, it implies final judgement, i would change that to the players dont cope with it as well as when they have game readers in the back line and in goal.
 
Lloris is better than brad at it, i can agree with that, that's not being disputed.



I'm also perfectly happy for you to think it's a bad plan.


However to claim that it will have been a 'brash and naive' move, even if we win and Swansea create nothing is silly. It smacks of bias. It states that whatever happens you think AVB is wrong, even if the game shows him to be right.


It's just a bit small time, a bigger man would leave space to own up to himself being incorrect after the match.
 
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