Gareth Bale

[DHSF]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Maloney made sure that he made contact with Osman. And contact doesn't equal a foul btw.

Were you happy today that Bale got clattered by Delph rather than hurdle/fling (dive) over the tackle and ensure he didnt get hurt?

 

[Jurgen the German]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Were you happy today that Bale got clattered by Delph rather than hurdle/fling (dive) over the tackle and ensure he didnt get hurt?

Yeah, mainly because I don't buy that excuse. Pretty sure none of us would if it was a non Spurs player. It was a bad tackle, but you're going to get kicked in football every now and then, it's a contact sport. Fair enough if some clogger is going to two foot him and Bale can see it coming and jumps out of the way. How do you think Bale would have done in the era of Norman "bite your legs" Hunter or Graeme Souness? Not saying I endorse some of the tackles from that era, but football really is tame compared to those days.

 

[Mr. Green]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Were you happy today that Bale got clattered by Delph rather than hurdle/fling (dive) over the tackle and ensure he didnt get hurt?

The impact could be heard clearly on TV. Delph was aiming at the wrong object...he was late and still took a sweep at the incoming, player's leg, if it's from behind, it would be dead certain red.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gif-ouch-gareth-bale-taken-out-by-fabian-delph/

To be fair, I think the ref (who was that) that met with Bale might have told him not to jump/dive out of the way. Stoopid, and inadequate protection I think.

 

[Mr. Green]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Yeah, mainly because I don't buy that excuse. Pretty sure none of us would if it was a non Spurs player. It was a bad tackle, but you're going to get kicked in football every now and then, it's a contact sport. Fair enough if some clogger is going to two foot him and Bale can see it coming and jumps out of the way. How do you think Bale would have done in the era of Norman "bite your legs" Hunter or Graeme Souness? Not saying I endorse some of the tackles from that era, but football really is tame compared to those days.

Part of the reason our game now is much faster is due to less reckless tackles.

However, to keep up the pace, the professional players gain in size and strength, the impact of such reckless tackles could actually be far worse. Like comparing Ferrari with Ford T crashing into roadside.

This sort of explains why today's players are sissy, their MC could easily range from weeks to months, whereas a magic sponge would cure most wounds in the "ancient time".

 

[DHSF]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Yeah, mainly because I don't buy that excuse. Pretty sure none of us would if it was a non Spurs player. It was a bad tackle, but you're going to get kicked in football every now and then, it's a contact sport. Fair enough if some clogger is going to two foot him and Bale can see it coming and jumps out of the way. How do you think Bale would have done in the era of Norman "bite your legs" Hunter or Graeme Souness? Not saying I endorse some of the tackles from that era, but football really is tame compared to those days.

No point in talking about past eras - this is the here and now. Some dont endorse the millions of pounds a year they get but hey this is the here and now.

If by hurdling over a tackle Bale is guaranteed to stay injury free then fudge it I dont want him injured. If he had hurdled over that challenge today, even flung himself over that challenge, it would have been no less a foul.

Mr Green (you got some haha) - refs telling him not to jump out the way is silly. Its a natural reaction to get out the way not to get hurt. If I feign a punch - youre gonna flinch - a tackle is similar.

 

[Mr. Green]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Mr Green (you got some haha) - refs telling him not to jump out the way is silly. Its a natural reaction to get out the way not to get hurt. If I feign a punch - youre gonna flinch - a tackle is similar.

Yeah, and at the same time, some of us are asking why our players could not breakdown our opponents with their pace.

If they don't like simulation, the refs must man-up too, they need to be a consistent, constant and reliable source to look up for when punishment needs to be dished out to reckless tacklers.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

No point in talking about past eras - this is the here and now. Some dont endorse the millions of pounds a year they get but hey this is the here and now.

If by hurdling over a tackle Bale is guaranteed to stay injury free then fudge it I dont want him injured. If he had hurdled over that challenge today, even flung himself over that challenge, it would have been no less a foul.

Mr Green (you got some haha) - refs telling him not to jump out the way is silly. Its a natural reaction to get out the way not to get hurt. If I feign a punch - youre gonna flinch - a tackle is similar.

Do you think Bale could avoid those types of tackles without diving? What did you think of dive in the first game with Villa this season when Guzan made no contact with him and was nowhere near him?

 

[diego_maradona]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Do you think Bale could avoid those types of tackles without diving? What did you think of dive in the first game with Villa this season when Guzan made no contact with him and was nowhere near him?

Bale brick himself and was convinced there was a heavy tackle coming. I feel it was instinctive for him. DHSF summed it up well, with the feigned punch and flinching.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Part of the reason our game now is much faster is due to less reckless tackles.

However, to keep up the pace, the professional players gain in size and strength, the impact of such reckless tackles could actually be far worse. Like comparing Ferrari with Ford T crashing into roadside.

This sort of explains why today's players are sissy, their MC could easily range from weeks to months, whereas a magic sponge would cure most wounds in the "ancient time".

Granted but some of the tackles in the 70s/80s were outrageous!!

 

[DHSF]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Do you think Bale could avoid those types of tackles without diving? What did you think of dive in the first game with Villa this season when Guzan made no contact with him and was nowhere near him?

That was fairly ridiculous ill admit but thats one - we keep on harping about that. Even then as Diego says Bale is a pansy (he aint a Dave Mackay) he flinched thats the only excuse I have - not much of one.

All in all I wuld rather he jumped over a tackle simply because a foul is a foul whether he has been smacked or not. im turning this into a bale diving thread which I dont wanna do but that tackle is precisely why Bale will continue to hurdle over them. He is a marked man now and its better to hurt him than him hurting you.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Bale brick himself and was convinced there was a heavy tackle coming. I feel it was instinctive for him. DHSF summed it up well, with the feigned punch and flinching.

But that's still diving no matter how you slice it. It's going down without contact. And did you notice how he stayed down for a couple of minutes but then got up and was completely fine? Scored after the foul in fact. I remember Steff slaughtering Cazorla for exaggerating the Adebayor tackle.

 

[diego_maradona]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

But that's still diving no matter how you slice it. It's going down without contact. And did you notice how he stayed down for a couple of minutes but then got up and was completely fine? Scored after the foul in fact. I remember Steff slaughtering Cazorla for exaggerating the Adebayor tackle.

Your right. he definitely dived, I just think he was just being instinctive.

 

[Mr. Green]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Do you think Bale could avoid those types of tackles without diving? What did you think of dive in the first game with Villa this season when Guzan made no contact with him and was nowhere near him?

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/motd-analysis-gareth-bales-dirty-dive-tottenham-v-aston-villa/

Better ask Guzan, seemed to me he wasn't keen to do another rushing at Bale when he scored his first.

 

[DHSF]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

But that's still diving no matter how you slice it. It's going down without contact. And did you notice how he stayed down for a couple of minutes but then got up and was completely fine? Scored after the foul in fact. I remember Steff slaughtering Cazorla for exaggerating the Adebayor tackle.

So you are now accusing him of feigning injury? that tackle by Delph was ridiculous (it wasnt a sending off but not far off). All players stay down and im sure its to signal to a ref that he has gotta watch out for those tackles and stop them.

I agree about going down without contact if a tackle wasnt made. If a tackle has been made and doesnt get the ball (doesnt have to get the man remember) then by definition that is a foul and free kick. Dont forget Jurgen - a tackle should make contact with the ball first anything else is irrelevant. A tackle doesnt have to make contact with a player for it to be a foul.

 

[thfcsteff]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

Yeah, mainly because I don't buy that excuse. Pretty sure none of us would if it was a non Spurs player. It was a bad tackle, but you're going to get kicked in football every now and then, it's a contact sport. Fair enough if some clogger is going to two foot him and Bale can see it coming and jumps out of the way. How do you think Bale would have done in the era of Norman "bite your legs" Hunter or Graeme Souness? Not saying I endorse some of the tackles from that era, but football really is tame compared to those days.

Do you actually remember those days?

Typically every side had an enforcer and they would trade 'tackles' early on to try and make sure the other didn't taco the star player. For us this involved Robbo, and sometimes Maxi, making sure that animals didn't take out Glennda. I spoke at length with Tony Galvin about 'that' Souness tackle in the 82 LCF (I was there and heard the fudging ****'s challenge from the upper terraces!) and he basically said that if that had happened today, he'd have been subbed and out for at least a month.

It was a different era.
I think you have a serious blind spot when it comes to Bale and this entire subject, certainly every bit as huge a blind spot as you would accuse the likes of me of having...

 

[thfcsteff]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

It was more of a comment about football and players in general today. It was a bad tackle, but he did manage to get up and play the rest of the game, until he was subbed. And as I mentioned before, Cazorla got coated on here for staying down and making sure Adebayor got a red card.

Why do you keep going on and on about the two incidents like they have anything much in common? I mean seriously, can you not process the difference between the two situations? Christ, it really gets frustrating! I have NEVER seen Gareth Bale try to get an opposing player sent off along with a couple of bleating teammates a la Cazorla, that **** Wheelchair and Gibbs...FFS...

 

[thfcsteff]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

I know that sorry if it came across as harsh. He was hurt though it was a bad challenge. Everyone gets up after the initial pain and shock. Its like stubbing your toe - it kills and you start jumping around like a fudgein pansie but after a few minutes its all hunky dory.

To be honest Ade's was a red card all day long and thats just peoples bias talking. I would argue with an Arse fan to death that it wasnt a red card just cos im biased (also its very funny)

In the modern game, the challenge itself was certainly one which could've got a red. I've seen a few of those not get reds, largely because of the payers involved. Cazorla made sure he got the red his silly challenge was already on the line of getting IMO...of course Ade's a silly boy, and had he not been so hepped up/bought into the fervor whipping up around him, he might well have stayed out of it.

 

[thfcsteff]

Re: The Incorrect Decisions thread

I really don't get this "man up" brick comments re Bale ... especially from our fans, two points

- How many of you have taken a really hard hit at full sprint?
- How many of us, have trained to be an athlete at a Sport for as long as you could remember? finally make it to where you are on the verge of being a true World recognized talent, have someone fudge you up with a tackle (can you imagine 3-4 months of rehab where you must be thinking am I ever going to be the same again? look at the amount of players an injury killed their top level ability)

And what, I'm supposed to take a hit to prove I'm a man? to who, a set of internet keyboard warriors and critics?

Fact is, both Lennon and Bale take way to many hits without proper ref protection.

This says it all.
=D>

 

[markysimmo]

Re: Gareth Bale

And so it begins, Marca today

Madrid has a partnership agreement with Tottenham
Real in pole position to bag Gareth Bale
Ulises Sánchez-Flor. Madrid 12/28/2012

Tottenham's flying Welshman Gareth Bale is one of the players Real Madrid has its sights on to bolster its squad for the 2013-14 season. Initial talks about a deal were held this summer while the two clubs were finalising Luka Modric's move to Madrid.

Real Madrid enquired about Bale and was told that he wasn't for sale, but that 'Los Blancos' will be given first refusal when the Londoners do listen to offers. It is looking likely that this day will come this summer, because Bale has made it clear that he wants to play for a club where he can grow and compete for major trophies.

There are various reasons why 'Los Blancos' are in pole position to capture the Welshman. First amongst them is the excellent relationship between Tottenham and Real Madrid, following various pieces of business between the clubs in recent years (including Van der Vaart's cut-price switch to London, Madrid pulling out of the race for Adebayor to smooth Spurs' bid to sign him, and Modric's move in the opposite direction).

Secondly, the North Londoners know that there are numerous clubs in for Bale, but do not want to strengthen a direct rival by selling him to another English side. Finally, and most importantly, Bale is interested in playing for Madrid.

While the deal seems to tick a lot of the right boxes, as ever in the transfer market, the price tag could stall or scupper any potential move. The Madrid top brass are unwilling to pay over the odds given the current economic crisis. Bale is an excellent player, but they aren't determined to sign him at any cost.

Figures ranging from €50m to €60m have been bandied about in the British media, with the Premier League's trio of financial big boys – Emirates Marketing Project, Chelsea and Manchester United – reportedly circling to swoop for the Welshman. However, the fact is that Spurs has yet to put an official price on the winger's head. That will come later.

Real Madrid has equally yet to sit down and thrash out exactly how much it would be willing to fork out. 'Los Blancos' do, however, have a precedent to go on – the €35 million they paid for Luka Modric, which could serve as a benchmark when it comes to negotiating for Bale.

Madrid has been keeping close tabs on the 23-year-old for some time now and has been blown away by his development. Having started out as a left-back, he has since migrated to the wing, where he is given the freedom to roam and make an impact all over the pitch. He has an excellent eye for goal, as proven by his hat-trick against Aston Villa on Wednesday, when he put on a masterclass.

José Mourinho is known to be a big fan of the former Southampton star, leading 'Los Blancos' to step up their interest once the Portuguese coach arrived at the club.

Although Mou staying would increase the likelihood of Madrid pushing for Bale, the biggest factor for or against any potential deal will be the price tag Spurs place around his neck, not the man in the Bernabéu dugout

 

[THFC6061]

Re: Gareth Bale

^^^
Nothing in that article that isn't already common knowledge.

If Spurs can get Champions League football for 2013-14, I don't think Bale will be going anywhere.

If we don't, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he decides to move.