Transfer thread

[Mr Gogolak]

Was clear 2 years ago that Jordan James would be decent, was poor at Rennes though which goes against him, but still a very decent player.

Eze when at QPR was clear as day, glided around the pitch .

Hackney is going to be one hell of a player

Not having a go at you, but I think this is one of these games where people only remember when they win. If I ask you to guess a number between 1 and 10 and you hit the mark one time in three, you're some kind of psychic. Still, it means you were wrong 66% of the time.

There are so many factors that could affect a player's development that talent is just one of the variables.

If we made a yearly list of the players we believe would become world class, we'd probably get a success ratio somewhere between 1 in 3 and 1 in 6, at a guess. Most sporting directors don't have that luxury - they usually need to be closer to 2 in 3, if they want to be considered successful.

Signing a player when he's at his peak is usually less of a risk, since you know what you pay for (unless you're Spurs, of course).

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Not having a go at you, but I think this is one of these games where people only remember when they win. If I ask you to guess a number between 1 and 10 and you hit the mark one time in three, you're some kind of psychic. Still, it means you were wrong 66% of the time.

There are so many factors that could affect a player's development that talent is just one of the variables.

If we made a yearly list of the players we believe would become world class, we'd probably get a success ratio somewhere between 1 in 3 and 1 in 6, at a guess. Most sporting directors don't have that luxury - they usually need to be closer to 2 in 3, if they want to be considered successful.

Signing a player when he's at his peak is usually less of a risk, since you know what you pay for (unless you're Spurs, of course).

I don't disagree, I also have never claimed to have been right all the time about it. But there are also players where its clear they are going to be very very good, there is a difference between that and a hunch.

I agree with alot of what you say BTW

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Harry Wilson would be a no brainer

 

[glorygloryeze]

Harry Wilson would be a no brainer

Kind of overrated for me. If he was much pacier then yeah, i'd definitely suggest he'd be worth trying for (but then if he was pacier he'd probably not be available om a free anyhow...)

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Kind of overrated for me. If he was much pacier then yeah, i'd definitely suggest he'd be worth trying for (but then if he was pacier he'd probably not be available om a free anyhow...)

As squad depth he would be brilliant, bit of a wand of a left peg and can play central

 

[Lemonade Money]

Harry Wilson would be a no brainer

Richarlison PL 32, MPG 178, GC 18%, SA 43%
Wilson PL 36, MPG 269, GC 13%, SA 32%

Said it before, only two players really posted better numbers than Richarlison, but everyone thinks get rid.

 

[Kane]

As squad depth he would be brilliant, bit of a wand of a left peg and can play central

Goals and assists (which we need in spades).
Versatile (mostly has played RW, but can play LW and as an attacking midfielder.
Left-footed (which we lack).
Experienced international.
Takes free kicks and corners, and has taken penalties.
Played in 36 of 38 PL games this past season, and in most of Fulham's FA and EFL Cup games.

Emery/Villa (who will be in Champions League) are apparently the front runners for Wilson currently, on a freebie...

Harry Wilson - Player profile 25/26

Harry Wilson, 29, from Wales ➤ Fulham FC, since 2021 ➤ Right Winger ➤ Market value: €25.00m ➤ * 22/03/1997 in Wrexham, Wales

www.transfermarkt.com

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Richarlison PL 32, MPG 178, GC 18%, SA 43%
Wilson PL 36, MPG 269, GC 13%, SA 32%

Said it before, only two players really posted better numbers than Richarlison, but everyone thinks get rid.

Totally different roles, Wilson plays as a LW or a CM/AM. So offers depth in areas where we need it. We need rid of Richarlison and replacing with a much better striker.

He also ticks alot of other boxes when it comes to quality from set plays

 

[glorygloryeze]

As squad depth he would be brilliant, bit of a wand of a left peg and can play central

Our problem is often we are always going for 'squad depth' before we strengthen and upgrade on those who are first-teamers. When we buy someone who will relegate an existing first-teamer then we sort of add depth by proxy
Does Wilson bring more to the first team than those who are here already, e.g. Kudus? Not sure he does tbh, and we already are lacking pace in forward areas as it is.

 

[Raziel]

Wasnt hard
if you buy the best young player from the championship every other season imo you will get some top top players
You would get bowen, eze, Olise, Hackney and Jordan James (this season)… gray (who we got)
There are many options
Instead we, like most clubs, look overseas
Im a huge fan of lankshear, I saw him play youth for us and he was physically bigger and better with some awareness
I’ve watched Oxford this season and he has really stood out. He just has that awareness …. Where ti beam when to shoot and how to shoot too
Devine I’ve always liked too… doesnt hide and ales time when he gets the ball
Another I have high hopes for if he can stay for is George Abbott. Another with that knack of being in the right place and the right time

Johnson, Gray, Sessegnon, Dele all the way back to Taarabt, even Carrick, we do buy Championship players (multiple player of year in championship in that list)

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Our problem is often we are always going for 'squad depth' before we strengthen and upgrade on those who are first-teamers. When we buy someone who will relegate an existing first-teamer then we sort of add depth by proxy
Does Wilson bring more to the first team than those who are here already, e.g. Kudus? Not sure he does tbh, and we already are lacking pace in forward areas as it is.

I am ok filling in much needed depth though if its swift and makes sense, so we can then focus on the upgrades. The upgrades might also only come from moving others on too. I am comfortable with doing both at the same time.

Wilson bring cover to the RW, I am not sure we want to upgrade that area a year after Kudus, he also becomes a very strong cover for LW and can play centrally. Works

 

[Raziel]

Our problem is often we are always going for 'squad depth' before we strengthen and upgrade on those who are first-teamers. When we buy someone who will relegate an existing first-teamer then we sort of add depth by proxy
Does Wilson bring more to the first team than those who are here already, e.g. Kudus? Not sure he does tbh, and we already are lacking pace in forward areas as it is.

To give the current model a chance (benefit of the doubt), I think the strategy seems to be

- Get the easy/obvious deals out of the way early -> Robertson, Senesi, Savinho, which is fair, gives RDZ more time with them.

The real questions will be about
- Where are the significant upgrades? (CF/CM)
- Where are the sales? Vic, Romero, the maze of loan players, Sarr?

 

[Lemonade Money]

We need rid of Richarlison and replacing with a much better striker.

I think of Richarlison as LW primarily. And I disagree, keep Richarlison, and buy a much better striker.

 

[elyid]

I think of Richarlison as LW primarily. And I disagree, keep Richarlison, and buy a much better striker.

Need to sell Solanke really, as probably get £50m for him (2 years of Osimhens wages lol)

 

[parklane1]

How long does it take for people to figure out the person running the clickbait sites are just randomly picking out names of players to reel you in?
I limit myself to one visit a day on this thread just to see how ridiculous the candidates are.

None so blind as those can not see.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

There's a new complication though. Those sites are done by AI. But some clubs now also use AI to do their scouting. So there might actually be some accidental convergence.

As in the "Infinite Monkey Theorem"?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Johnson, Gray, Sessegnon, Dele all the way back to Taarabt, even Carrick, we do buy Championship players (multiple player of year in championship in that list)

We did
We don’t as rule and Johnson and sessegnon were playing in the prem when we signed them
Taaarabt came from France didnt he

 

[Ace Face]

Wasnt hard
if you buy the best young player from the championship every other season imo you will get some top top players
You would get bowen, eze, Olise, Hackney and Jordan James (this season)… gray (who we got)
There are many options
Instead we, like most clubs, look overseas
Im a huge fan of lankshear, I saw him play youth for us and he was physically bigger and better with some awareness
I’ve watched Oxford this season and he has really stood out. He just has that awareness …. Where ti beam when to shoot and how to shoot too
Devine I’ve always liked too… doesnt hide and ales time when he gets the ball
Another I have high hopes for if he can stay for is George Abbott. Another with that knack of being in the right place and the right time

We did have Skipp and Sessegnon, who both for injury reasons never worked out, but in general that’s a pretty solid strategy.

But then you have to play them consistently in one position with patience so they can develop, something we have not been good at.

I really hope Gray is given that opportunity this season. He’s earned it IMO.

 

[Muttley]

From what I remember, club trained in the UEFA comps doesn't really kick in until you're 21 years old. With Gray and Bergval they would have been free pick B-lis this season as they're still U21 but have served 2 years with THFC registration. They would have freed up 2 spaces on the A-list. However, next season (27/28) they would have reverted to club trained of which we can have up to 4. Vuskovic would have hypothetically had to have been named on A-list as he needs to complete 2 years registration before he can move to the B-list. He is much younger.

So I do think we need to have a long hard think if we're on a multi-year journey to create a full quota (4) of club trained for UEFA comps and then sell guys like Bergval at the first smell of decent cash. Not for me.

 

[Yiddo]

Harry Wilson would be a no brainer

No thanks.