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Cristian Romero

DubSpur said:
Nah, it's not, it's pretty much par for the course. Doesn't matter the topic he'll find a way to bring Kane into it and try to lay the boot into him.
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But it's an objective discussion though. Kane made his decisions and missed PL games because of that decision. He only started game 3 of that season because of the late conditioning schedule the club were forced to put him on. Cuti is not actually fit for selection but as club captain he should be present either way (my opinion). I bet Ledders will be present, as would any of our prior captains like Hugo or Sonny of they possibly could be.

I'm more worried about the ones that are present but not present if you know what I mean. I didn't see the Chelsea game but read all of the Muani narrative. I hope every player turns up on Sunday. We need them all.
 
DubSpur said:
There's no need for treatment in Argentina, he can get it in England. Even if that was the case he can put it back for a few days until after the game.
If a family member is sick that's fair enough, but don't go to the training ground of your old club and don't go to match when your own team is playing their most critical match in years.
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You might be right but just feels like a lot of jumping the gun at this stage. IIRC he’s gone back to Argentina for treatment in the past.

LutonSpurs said:
Rarely disagree with you my Aussia pal but it's just got me worried it will impact the environment even though we don't know if it's true. I'm leaning to think it was true as Vickery reported it. However I'm certain he will get given orders to get the eff home.
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That’s where it’ll wholly depend on what involvement the club had. I can’t imagine he just absconded, but if he did then there will surely be severe ramifications for him.
 
tommysvr said:
You might be right but just feels like a lot of jumping the gun at this stage. IIRC he’s gone back to Argentina for treatment in the past.



That’s where it’ll wholly depend on what involvement the club had. I can’t imagine he just absconded, but if he did then there will surely be severe ramifications for him.
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I think you’re spot on. We should give Romero the benefit of the doubt until the circumstances are confirmed officially. Too often, we condemn people on the strength of an internet whisper. VdV was getting it not so long ago.

If it is true, I’ll be immensely fudged off but I’ll hold my tongue for the moment.
 
harr1984 said:
Why does a player being sold in the future mean they don't want him around the dressing room? Especially the captain - The only reason for that would be because he is a bad presence around the other players. I'm not saying that he is, but your rationale/excuse just does not stack up.....
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Well this is the crux of it - he's either not fussed about the club & the teams current plight or the manager/club feels he'd be a negative influence - either way you cut it it reflects very badly on him. Imagine if Maddison for example was still sidelined, you wouldn't even question whether he'd be doing everything he can to be a positive influence in and around the camp during these times, he'd absolutely get the responsibility and the situation.


This guy is the captain and he's on the opposite side of the planet having a jolly up watching his old club in a cup final while we're facing one of the biggest games in our history - it fudging stinks
 
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billyiddo said:
Well this is the crux of it - he's either not fussed about the club & the teams current plight or the manager/club feels he'd be a negative influence - either way you cut it it reflects very badly on him. Imagine if Maddison for example was still sidelined, you wouldn't even question whether he'd be doing everything he can to be a positive influence in and around the camp during these times, he'd absolutely get the responsibility and the situation.


This guy is the captain and he's on the opposite side of the planet having a jolly up watching his old club in a cup final while we're facing one of the biggest games in our history - it fudging stinks
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The captain part is the key for me too. I don't care about Kudus not being at games. Romero matters
 
glasgowspur said:
Honestly we shouldn't be focusing on this, or having to, nothing should be a distraction from the Everton game. By we I mean the fans, same with that dumb statement from the trust.
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You're correct but think it's inevitable unfortunately because it's grabbed headlines. I've had a few texts from rival fans on it already. Another reason why it's a stupid, selfish move if it is as it appears. Not only should he be supporting the squad but by not doing it, it also creates a distraction for the manager (who'll be questioned today on it) and fans.
 
It looks bad, but could it be he is in a race to be ready for the world cup, so has gone back to see a specialist he trusts (with the clubs consent), and thought he'd take in an old teams game in between therapy?
 
Lemonade Money said:
It looks bad, but could it be he is in a race to be ready for the world cup, so has gone back to see a specialist he trusts (with the clubs consent), and thought he'd take in an old teams game in between therapy?
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Could be training in extreme temperatures, different humidity etc as well in preparation for the World Cup.

Still think he should be present in our biggest game though.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
To be honest, he did a lot more damage when he (apparently) turned up late for training in my opinion. He's a quality player (although I still think he'd be a much better defensive midfielder) and I share some of his comments about the owners but at this point, he's as good as gone, and that's probably for the best.

Unless the club is sold this summer - which won't happen - he's probably burned all bridges with the Lewises and his attitude has been questionable for a long, long time. Regardless of whether he's right or wrong, whether he's a liability on the pitch or not, you can't afford to have a player with such an unprofessional attitude. Either you turn a blind eye on his antics and it sets a very poor example for the rest of the squad, or you fine/suspend him and you have an unhappy player in your team.

Let's squeeze as much as we can from his transfer, wish him luck wherever he goes and forget about him. Very good player, but for me, it's clear that his heart hasn't been in it this season.
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The issue with Romero is (similar to Dier or Stones) whilst he’s got above average passing ability for a CB he lacks the positional sense to be an elite DM (like the similarly statured Rodri or Busquets) and at 28 years is too old to be mastering a new position.

Considering he’s now in the prime of his career, Cuti shouldn’t still be committing daft errors plus have the maturity to utilise those dark arts (like Lamela) so that he can get away with clattering opponents; as Gabriel and Joelinton do so regularly.

Cuti seems to have just the right sort of attitude to fit in with the other prima donnas at Real Madrid and maybe the returning Mourinho can get the best out of him.
 
I think we are all a bit naive in thinking players feel the same way we do about the club, particularly overseas players.
There are some that do but the majority are here for the money or career development opportunities.
I would expect if Romero is/has travelling to Argentina he has done so with club approval and we may not like it just needed to move on and focus on the players we got for Sunday's match.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I think we are all a bit naive in thinking players feel the same way we do about the club, particularly overseas players.
There are some that do but the majority are here for the money or career development opportunities.
I would expect if Romero is/has travelling to Argentina he has done so with club approval and we may not like it just needed to move on and focus on the players we got for Sunday's match.
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It's not just about his feeling for the club, which as captain he should have some feelings, but also about his team mates.
He should be there to support them.
 
DubSpur said:
It's not just about his feeling for the club, which as captain he should have some feelings, but also about his team mates.
He should be there to support them.
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That's assuming the players don't know the reasons? An alternative view is that they do know why, see all the outrage online and drift even further apart from the fanbase right before the most crucial game in our future.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I think we are all a bit naive in thinking players feel the same way we do about the club, particularly overseas players.
There are some that do but the majority are here for the money or career development opportunities.
I would expect if Romero is/has travelling to Argentina he has done so with club approval and we may not like it just needed to move on and focus on the players we got for Sunday's match.
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If he's happy to take the money, he should show up for work and, as club captain, that goes beyond just playing.

tommysvr said:
That's assuming the players don't know the reasons? An alternative view is that they do know why, see all the outrage online and drift even further apart from the fanbase right before the most crucial game in our future.
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I think any right-minded player would understand the outrage given the way it's been reported and the situation we are in.
 
DubSpur said:
It's not just about his feeling for the club, which as captain he should have some feelings, but also about his team mates.
He should be there to support them.
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DeanoAustin said:
If he's happy to take the money, he should show up for work and, as club captain, that goes beyond just playing.


I think any right-minded player would understand the outrage given the way it's been reported and the situation we are in.
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Much as I agree with your sentiments, footballers live by differing rules and standards than us mere mortals.
 
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