Do teachers know the meaning of stress?

[Dorothy]

Swings and roundabouts. One man's stress is another man's motivation and comfort. It depends on so many variables. inlcuding the individuals ability to cope. Stress is a reaction, an inability to cope. Stress I'd imagine can exist in even the most mundane jobs. It can be due to the work, the environment, your fellow workers etc etc. Obviously a reasonable teaching role can be made stressful by just one arse of a colleague or one arse of a pupil. My other half is heading back to Uni hopefully to do her PGCE for Primary. Primary is where she is happiest and she already makes a positive difference to a lot of kids as a TA. She does a lot of SEN work and does lots of one to one work with those for whom English isn't their first language, usually in more deprived areas. I know she made a conscious decision to focus on Primary, maybe because she felt she could offer more there and cope better.

I don't know if she is aware of how much work will be involved in the future but she is very committed and very passionate about it. She has already noticed, as with any job that there are some lifers in the roles who clearly are just going through the motions and no longer really give a brick. All they do is moan, strike, mewl and they offer very little in class to those that really need them. Many of them appear to fit a bit of a pattern which is a shame. Many do it to get paid and as with so many other jobs in this country they do the very least they can to maintain their income and role.

 

[southstand1882]

Those that can't.......teach

 

[Superted]

Too many brickhouse parents give up on their kids and expect school and specifically teachers to raise them and teach them manners, work ethic, etc. Teachers teach, parents raise. I wouldn't be a teacher for quids.

 

[P.D.]

More people going to uni is also related to cyclical changes in the economy from manufacturing to services, interesting that it looks like the pendulum could start to swing back soon.

 

[Dorothy]

Uni is just another profitable industry. It raises money for the economy, keeps people out of the unemployment figures a little longer and gets more Britains locked into the debt cycle earlier. You will over time just find more debt ridden unemployed with degrees. The debt though will simply mount up as they will be unable to pay it back as they won't be working.

 

[COYS]

Uni is just another profitable industry. It raises money for the economy, keeps people out of the unemployment figures a little longer and gets more Britains locked into the debt cycle earlier. You will over time just find more debt ridden unemployed with degrees. The debt though will simply mount up as they will be unable to pay it back as they won't be working.

You do realise if you are unable to pay off your student loan you don't have to? A student loan only gets paid back when you're working. Your debt doesn't 'build up'

 

[Seedy Ron]

Student loans are subject to interest.

 

[COYS]

Student loans are subject to interest.

Doesn't matter. You still only pay it back if you can. It's a graduate's tax, not a loan.

 

[Seedy Ron]

The interest will still apply, so the debt will still grow, whether you ever pay a penny back or not.

Presumably you will still receive a loan in the traditional sense too, to pay for accomodation etc, in addition to the fees? Are they coupled into the same debt?

 

[COYS]

The interest will still apply, so the debt will still grow, whether you ever pay a penny back or not.

Presumably you will still receive a loan in the traditional sense too, to pay for accomodation etc, in addition to the fees? Are they coupled into the same debt?

Yep, it also includes living costs, if you choose to take out what's known as a 'Maintenance Loan', however I won't do that, my parents should hopefully cover those costs. But those aren't the ones that ill-informed tossers have rioted and thrown fire extinguishers off buildings about.

 

[Sheikh Ma Nuggets]

Yep, it also includes living costs, if you choose to take out what's known as a 'Maintenance Loan', however I won't do that, my parents should hopefully cover those costs. But those aren't the ones that ill-informed tossers have rioted and thrown fire extinguishers off buildings about.

And what of those for whom mummy and daddy don't act as a financial cushion; still think higher education is affordable?

I pay my own way for everything, gives me a sense of self-respect and that I've earned every bit of what I now have.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

And what of those for whom mummy and daddy don't act as a financial cushion; still think higher education is affordable?

I pay my own way for everything, gives me a sense of self-respect and that I've earned every bit of what I now have.

Genuine question, if you have a great deal of self respect why do you come across as so sarcastic and bitter in many of your posts? The way you respond to/interact with many people on here is not indicative of someone who is satisfied/happy in life!

 

[COYS]

And what of those for whom mummy and daddy don't act as a financial cushion; still think higher education is affordable?

I pay my own way for everything, gives me a sense of self-respect and that I've earned every bit of what I now have.

OK, for those who really wanna be a prick, here goes:

I DON'T HAVE A fudging JOB WITH ?ú8000 A YEAR TO SPEND.

Yes it is still affordable, as you don't pay more a month than if you didn't take out a maintenance loan

 

[P.D.]

Good luck paying it off till your 35/40 and looking in distraught every time you see your payslip with money being taken out each month for over a decade

 

[Sheikh Ma Nuggets]

Genuine question, if you have a great deal of self respect why do you come across as so sarcastic and bitter in many of your posts? The way you respond to/interact with many people on here is not indicative of someone who is satisfied/happy in life!

Your name rings a bell; did I reply to you recently or something?

As for my happiness, cheers for the 50p psycology but - honestly - you wouldn't believe just how happy I am in life!! In every single respect, I couldn't be in a better place right now. It means I don't have to lick anyone's arse or fanny around an issue; I put my thoughts out there and im not the slightest bit bothered if everyone or no-one agrees with it. Too many are bothered about how they appear and carefully cultivating their little online personas - well gonad*s to that!!

Get an opinion, take a view and get interesting - much more fun.

 

[COYS]

Good luck paying it off till your 35/40 and looking in distraught every time you see your payslip with money being taken out each month for over a decade

3 decades actually. But for what it's worth, why not? It will probably be a bloody good investment for the future! I know your generation are so anti uni, just because most of Gen X never went, and are under the impression it's full of time-wasters and money-wasters, but oh well, that's just a stupid stereotype.

I said this before a few weeks ago but I'll say it again. If I start off on 30k a year after graduating then that's ?ú67.50 a month for my student loan. That's ?ú67.50 a month I can live without after just attending uni for free. If I didn't go to uni my starting salary may only be 25k a year, which means uni was a bloody good investment!

 

[Sheikh Ma Nuggets]

OK, for those who really wanna be a prick, here goes:

I DON'T HAVE A fudging JOB WITH ?ú8000 A YEAR TO SPEND.

Yes it is still affordable, as you don't pay more a month than if you didn't take out a maintenance loan

Calm down son, that's not a good way to answer a simple question.

So, instead of leeching off of mummy and daddy, why don't you have some self-respect and get a part-time job of some sort? You might find two things: i) quite liberating to not have to rely on your parents to pay for everything, and ii) that balancing finances are a little bit more difficult in the real world which you seem so utterly sheltered from. The whole experience might give you some much-needed wisdom, and grow you up a little bit.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

Your name rings a bell; did I reply to you recently or something?

As for my happiness, cheers for the 50p psycology but - honestly - you wouldn't believe just how happy I am in life!! In every single respect, I couldn't be in a better place right now. It means I don't have to lick anyone's arse or fanny around an issue; I put my thoughts out there and im not the slightest bit bothered if everyone or no-one agrees with it. Too many are bothered about how they appear and carefully cultivating their little online personas - well gonad*s to that!!

Get an opinion, take a view and get interesting - much more fun.

Nope, not that i'm aware, not a comment on my own behalf, just a general observation on some of your comments that I've seen! While I enjoy posting on the board I have a lot of better things to do then spend my days worrying about what so an so has said blah blah blah, much like in real life really. To sum it up in a crass Internet motif...haterz gonna hate lolz:lol:

 

[COYS]

Calm down son, that's not a good way to answer a simple question.

So, instead of leeching off of mummy and daddy, why don't you have some self-respect and get a part-time job of some sort? You might find two things: i) quite liberating to not have to rely on your parents to pay for everything, and ii) that balancing finances are a little bit more difficult in the real world which you seem so utterly sheltered from. The whole experience might give you some much-needed wisdom, and grow you up a little bit.

1) I most likely will find a part time job whilst I'm at uni.
2) Part-time jobs generally don't pay ?ú8000 a year?
3) I have to study as well.

Yes I'm thinking bloody far ahead, but my brother and my sister have both been through uni, so I know well enough what to expect, and I'm just saying what I'd do now. If I could get a job now I would, but unfortunately I'm not legal yet.

My point is when I'm at uni my dad will treat me the same as he treated my siblings whilst they lived at uni. He gave them a monthly allowance, but they still worked for some extra cash in their pockets so they can do more stuff.

 

[Hootnow]

I've never understood this notion of taking someone elses' job - one which you actually know nothing about - and judging whether they're either working hard, or 'know the meaning of stress'. It implies that you're not happy in your own job, doesn't it? Okay, well if you're so amazing that you feel empowered to judge everyone else - then go and get yourself an easier job.

There's different levels of stress and expectation in every job, be it the deliverables or the people you work with. Also, some people simply don't know how to plan their time properly, so end up stressing themselves out, when actually there's no need. Usually, that's when I often hear these ridiculous judgements made on other people.

I've had it myself too, in the past. I never look stressed, because I regimentally plan my work and I have rules for taking anything on. I've had colleagues in the past comment that I look like I'm not doing anything and obviously overpaid - and yet, in meetings, these are the people who - unlike myself - could never give definitive answers or reasons as to why there was slippage on a deliverable. Less time spent on worrying about others, and you'd do a better job yourself.

I think teachers do a great job and, personally, I wouldn't do it for all the silver in the world. If all you can criticise - because, some people just love to criticise - is that they get long holidays, then - well - it isn't much is it really? They're teaching the next generation; the generation that will, one day, succeed you and drive the economy and yet, naively, all you can do is criticise them?

If you hate your jobs people, go and get what you perceive to be better, or easier ones. Personally, I love a challenge and I thrive on stress - brings out the best in me; so, would I want a cushy, boring, monotonous job? No fudging way.

Agree with this. Why are people always so ridiculously negative? Everything has to be a doomsday scenario. This is the most danger we've faced in...This is the worst recession in......Our kids are the worst behaved in....Our workers in the least qualified in.....Our country is the most flooded in....

Blah blah. Don't people ever tire of being so negative? Every generation seems to rattle on about how the next generation has it easier and how their education is worse. And yet every generation seems to expand economies, technologies, arts and sciences.

I think teachers have a difficult job, especially in the cities. And I think they do a good job. And thank fudge they do a good job because our kids are going to have sort out the mess (in almost every way) that our generation has made.

I've decided recently to follow what I've always wanted to do and go into training for what many people consider (and is statistically) to be one of the most stressful jobs in the country. And I wouldn't ever dream of being a teacher. Fair play to them.