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Willian José

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Denmark Spur, 22 Jan 2020.

  1. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    That's the weirdest stat I have ever heard of.
     
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    Kandi1977 Dimitar Berbatov

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    Not really. It tells you quite a lot. Would you rather have a player that often scores the first goal, the winner or the last goal in a +2 goal win?
     
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  3. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    Considering how many times we’ve thrown away a lead over the past 12 months, my preference is:

    1) the winner
    2) the last scorer in a 2+ goal win
    3) first goal (and pray for a clean sheet!)
     
  4. Robbo

    Robbo Nick Barmby

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    Don't get excited. History always repeats itself. Chelski will hijack this deal.
     
  5. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Dimitar Berbatov

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    You think different to me. My order would be:
    1) the winner
    2) first goal. Why? Because getting the first goal is often crucial to getting control of the game. Yes, we have lost quite a few where we scored first, but that is an anomaly. Also the first goal might also be the winner.
    3) Last goal in a +2 win. You aren't really affecting the game when you just add to an already comfortable victory.
     
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  6. Daisuk

    Daisuk Paul Robinson

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    But but, two of the those alternatives results in a win, scoring the first goal doesn't, so the choice is quite simple. :p
     
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  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Erik Thorstvedt

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    Fergie once commented on VDV vs Walclam when asked who he would prefer... VDV as he scores the important goals. When asked what he meant he said the first or last goal in a 1 goal win. Walclam scores hat tricks in a 6 nil win
     
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  8. AdamB

    AdamB Steffen Freund

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    Amazing that they want €21m and we've only offered half that amount!

    His scoring record is ok, but then he's spent almost his entire career on loan and never really been in a team which might dominate matches and where he'll get chances (hopefully at Spurs he would be).

    He seems mobile and someone who would lead the line like Kane does and for the price, I cant see that we'll get anyone more proven
     
  9. Legohamster

    Legohamster John Lacy

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    According to Spanish papers we have agreed personal terms but nowhere near the players valuation
     
  10. StephenH

    StephenH Colin Calderwood

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    Is there ANY excitement here?
     
  11. Jon

    Jon To dare is to Dodd

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    I hate those fudging diagrams!!!

    Can we please all agree to standardise on my template below:-
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  12. Bullet

    Bullet Paul Walsh

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    Ha ha ha good to the left and bad to the right. Are you INSANE Jon? Jesus Christ. You've ruined my day.
     
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  13. Bullet

    Bullet Paul Walsh

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    Like Aaron Lennon. That stupid stat "Spurs never lose when Lennon scores" was because he hardly ever scored, and when he did it was the 4th goal in a rout.

    Don't bother spewing the exceptions at me, I don't want to have to clean myself up after.
     
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    Glenda's Legs Paul Stalteri

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    Another complication similar to the Dybala one?
    (This is the only mention I've seen of a third party involvement)
     
  15. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Remembering of course, the first goal could also be the winner! It does at the very least ensure teams have to abandon their defensive block and open themselves up. The first goal is often the key to the result.
     
  16. Ade's folks are ok really

    Ade's folks are ok really Ramon Vega

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    Usual problem then...

    - Player agrees terms and wants to force a move (allegedly);
    - Club don't play said player as "his mind is elsewhere";
    - Crucially, Levy thinks he can use this as a way of haggling down the price;
    - Transfer stalls for 2 weeks over fee negotiations;
    - We eventually sign said player on final day after Levy saves himself whopping 500k, but as a result the player needs 3wks to acclimatise to PL, adjust to English life and force his way into first team;
    - Player manages all of about 4-6 games with no time left to find a run of form;
    - Said player labelled as a flop by media as Kane-less season tails off to a damp squid;
    - Fans blame Levy for not pulling his finger out quick enough over the transfer.


    We all know the drill, inevitably.
     
  17. milo

    milo Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    What's the alternative? Paying a £70m release fee for a journeyman? He seems like a sensible player to provide cover but it seems unlikely that he will set the league alight. He's probably worth £20-25m to us but that is low in the current market.
     
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  18. Ade's folks are ok really

    Ade's folks are ok really Ramon Vega

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    I think both clubs acknowledge that the hefty release clause isn't going to be adhered to by either party. So my point is that Levy needs to get something done sooner rather than later. But he'll never learn. Pinching a few pennies here and there seems more valuable to him than the notion of getting him integrated into the squad quickly.
     
  19. milo

    milo Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    Let's see how this pans out before deciding what we have done wrong
     
  20. greatwhitenorf

    greatwhitenorf Teemu Tainio

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    Very sensible.

    Not what's needed, though.
     

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