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Trump and American politics

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by Danishfurniturelover, 26 Jan 2016.

  1. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    On point. Bingo. In fact, from what little I know of US Presidential history, I would wager that Trump thinks of himself as more Taft than twit (if he even knows who Taft was!)...
     
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    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    Now, laugh as you may at this thought, I firmly believe this is within his regular wheelhouse TBH.I mean, Drumph does have much previous...no, Chich, I think the missing link (and the place where you could help him) is to suggest the fine feeling of quality sheer black nylon on the thigh, followed by a warm river of top-drawer custard poured slowly over his head as he nudges his choady tidger (because it WILL be tidger)...
     
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  3. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    I agree on both Gitmo and drones, but sadly, the way this system is set up, he had his balls in a vice from the first day. No power without compromise, and I firmly believe that the only way he could advance any form of national healthcare was to "compromise" on those areas you name. Both were enormous money makers for a few.

    As for the midterms, all I can say is people lack patience and awareness. The scale of brick he walked into was enormous.
     
  4. Jordinho

    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    I think his primary objective is to get his excuses in early. He will never admit to losing, so it will have to be "stolen" from him.

    Even if the election is somehow delayed, he will no longer be president on 20 January 2021.
     
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  5. braineclipse

    braineclipse Chris Jones

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    Ah yes. The small government party of massive military spending, militarised police forces, the death penalty, no abortions, blatant religious support, controlling which bathrooms people can use, huge prison populations, the war on drugs. Should I go on?

    OK then, also the party of locking up children, extensive gerrymandering, voter suppression, blocking vote by mail. And that's without getting to Trump and his "small government" ideas, but in the interest of brevity I'd rather not start listing them.

    All of this whilst being generally against policies that are cost effective in the long run. The kind of stuff that helps people in the long term whilst saving everyone money because there wouldn't be as many criminals, addicts, people on welfare etc.

    Small government up my... excrement ejector (bet you don't have that one on your list of words the advertisers don't like).
     
  6. milo

    milo Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    I agree with that. Voter suppression is a long-term Republican aim, not specific to Trump, for the same reasons that the Conservatives are doing it in the UK.
     
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  7. Jordinho

    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    Robbo Nick Barmby

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    #pizzagate
     
  10. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Les Medley

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    Genuine question. Are postal votes open to manipulation?

    The only corruption in regards to voting in the uk were to do with the lot in elephant and castle.
     
  11. milo

    milo Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    Any form of voting is open to abuse but instances both here and in the States are very low. Making it harder for people to vote does far more damage and disenfranchises the poorest and most vulnerable.
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Les Medley

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    Why does it stop the poorest? Im not trying to be provocative i have not postal voted before.
     
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    Kandi1977 Dimitar Berbatov

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    Because there are only certain places you can vote in person, and Trump is reducing the number of polling stations by the minute! You have to get there somehow, and it will then be difficult for poor and disabled people to get there. Fewer polling stations also means longer queues, thus you have to be away for a longer period of time to vote. If you have 5 little kids at home in the ghetto, that is not an option.
     
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  14. braineclipse

    braineclipse Chris Jones

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    Voting takes time. Poorer people living more month to month may not afford taking that time off work or other important activities to actually vote.

    During the pandemic this effect can be made greater. Longer lines before actually casting your vote. Increased financial strain.

    The pandemic also causes other issues. The poor are (relatively speaking) more likely to suffer health problems that increases the risk if they catch the virus. More likely to live with more family members means it's more likely they would expose a family member to risk.

    Relying on public transport further increases both the time spent and the risk of being exposed to the virus.

    In total this disenfranchises the poor, to a greater extent than it does the more affluent. Which will of course be exploited by politicians with some control over how the voting happens.
     
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    Rorschach George Hunt

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    Yep, postal voting is almost impossible to defraud on a scale that will have any meaningful effect whatsoever. That's why no one tries it. Voter suppression works far better for the GOP/Putin/Trump.
     
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    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    There is a very dangerous outlier here, which is that a top Trump donor was chosen to head up the USPS earlier this year. He has -effectively- bought the national postal service, and will doubtless use every last ounce of chicanery to fudge with the postal ballots. Very, very dangerous...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...cde93c-8fd4-11ea-8df0-ee33c3f5b0d6_story.html
     
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    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    Astonished to see the queues at Georgia primaries let alone reading about faults with voting machines, the sort of thing I’d expect to see in a third world country!

     
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    Rorschach George Hunt

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    This is mass murder.
     
  20. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    It just. Gets. Worse. The US makes banana republics look like Norway (correct me if I am wrong my friend)!!!!
     

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