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The all new Striker thread..

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Richie, 5 Feb 2012.

  1. metalgear

    metalgear Jimmy McCormick

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    His stats if I recall were quite good, seemed like a solid buy at the time. I wonder what went wrong. Attitude? Mental health issues? Or the epl too physically demanding? He looked a different player with us.
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  2. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Paul Walsh

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    They probably all got wiped when Mitchell packed up his black box!
     
  3. Baleforce

    Baleforce Mel Hopkins

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    The coaching/selection team as a whole, he needed games and there were plenty of options to give them, yet he rarely left the bench, if his issue was attitude or application, he wouldn’t have made the subs, as we know that Poch’s attitude to selection was based on professionalism in training.
     
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  4. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Poch was odd in that players he was matey with he would keep around and look after even if we wanted rid (rose)
    Players he signed that he hadn’t developed that rapport with he happily binned. Jansen was a classic one that just wasn’t given games with the better players which may have helped him turn that corner. I remember him coming in at Swansea and he changed the game just by getting stuck in and doing his job
     
  5. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Yeah have to agree
    His attitude was never ever questioned publicly at least IIRC
     
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  6. Baleforce

    Baleforce Mel Hopkins

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    Was that the game where he made two goals for Son?

    They looked to have a good understanding to me.
     
  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Yep
    He also linked up really well with him earlier that season IIRC when we played stoke or Sunderland away
    to me when you sign a player like him who has limited senior experience and coaching you have to invest more time in them to reap the rewards. Even when he came on right at the end of his fine here for an odd game he put himself about which again showed me an intent and effort. Of course that would have to be married with quality but you can only demonstrate that with game time
     
  8. Bishop

    Bishop Neil Ruddock

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    One criticism of Poch that I think was very valid was the slowness and reluctance to introduce new squad members into the side. We all remember how long it would take before a new signing was unleased (if they ever were).

    He was very much a fan of a settled first 13-15 players and anyone else would really have to excel to be considered. That in combo with the late signings just wasn't a good combination for developing fringe option (Janssen, Nkoudou, Njie etc).
     
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  9. JerusalemMan

    JerusalemMan Simon Davies

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    Or the Sock
     
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  10. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    I actually think that’s normal For clubs unless a player is very proven
    The issue with the N phalanx and Jansenn was they were given no chances to ever show their worth unless they were coming into a weaker side in cups for example
    As a player you want to test yourself against the Best but to play with the best too
    Nkodou crossing for lamppost is very different to crossing for Kane for example
    Jansenn was thrown in at the start TBF and starts vs Everton away where he played well but IIRC their keeper made a worldie/fluke save that kept him out. Goals change strikers as we all know
     
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  11. Bishop

    Bishop Neil Ruddock

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    Yes I remember being very happy with what I saw with Janssen initially, his hold up play in particular was very good. Better than Kane in that regard but he never really got the chance to really play with the full side for any period of time. Over time we just destroyed his confidence.
     
  12. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    And it’s hard for players to get it back
    Really hard it seems (look at Sanchez when he went to united for example)
     
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  13. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    Happens in all sports. Actually all walks of life because i have seen men move away from nagging wifes to a different part of the country and new jobs and really prosper.

    Some of us stay with the wifes and become brow beaten.
     
  14. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Luka Modric

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    Lots of rumours that we are working mainly on getting one of two strikers, and those two are Carlos Vinícius and Andrea Belotti.
    Vinícius looking more likely, as Torino want a package of close to €50m for Belotti.
     
  15. StephenH

    StephenH Barry Daines

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    My guess
     
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    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Who are you talking about here?
     
  17. StephenH

    StephenH Barry Daines

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    Janssen 'i hope'
     
  18. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Wondered
    To me he dealt with the physical side well
    He had so little supply when he played though so his chance conversion wouldn’t be bad IMO but he didn’t get many chances
    Strangely he always seemed to play the back to defender role/hold up role which seemed odd when you look at how he played before we signed him
     
  19. StephenH

    StephenH Barry Daines

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    a reoccurring situation of the past 40 years
    Our scouting is fecking inept compounded by the lack transfer budget.
     
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    camspur Neil Sullivan

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