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Tanguy Ndombele

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by JerusalemMan, 2 Jul 2019.

  1. Yiddo

    Yiddo Frederic Kanoute

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    He is better in the number 10 role but Moura has made that his own at the moment.
     
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    Finney Is Back Paul Walsh

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    The diamond formation needs quite a lot of coaching to get right. I think you have to commit to it and accept that you will have some iffy results as the players adapt to it.
     
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    Finney Is Back Paul Walsh

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    No, I think he was looking for the formation that could best counter the 4-3-3. I think that Poch knew he was never going to be allowed to compete with the biggest clubs for players so had to do things in a more clever way. I can remember an interview somewhere where Poch was talking about the diamond being the perfect counter to the 4-3-3, ensuring that you can outnumber the opposition in the key areas. I think Dybala was wanted as an option to play the free role in the 2 up front or at the tip of the diamond.
     
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    Finney Is Back Paul Walsh

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    Indeed. I don't think either Bruno Fernandes or Dybala were signings that signalled us wanting to move to a 4-3-3. I think they were both signings that would've fitted the diamond very well.
     
  5. Bishop

    Bishop Ruel Fox

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    Likewise. I didn't understand it at the time, but in hindsight that's what really makes sense with the attempted signings asking with his previous attempts at playing with the diamond.
     
  6. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Bert Bliss

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    Who actually plays the diamond formation?
    I can’t think of a side that does it
     
  7. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Sadly, thanks to an obsession finally fulfilled, we never got the chance to find out what his Mk II was going to be.
     
  8. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I don't see them as the same (you don't either I'm guessing)...but in a fluid front three, especially one where Kane often drops deep, I think Dybala would've enjoyed himself even in a 4-3-3...
     
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  9. Bishop

    Bishop Ruel Fox

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    But it's not really a 433 without the wide player on the right. Think of how Son plays the left attacker role, sometimes he's high and wide, sometimes he running inwards, sometimes he's towards the centre. That's a genuine inside forward role.

    That's not Dybala's game. He he has a left foot but he's a central AM/SS. He won't be out wide taking on the full back, he's not going to be making those outside to inside runs. It feels like we are suggesting shoehorning him into a fantasy system that in reality just wouldn't work.

    Dybala would occupy the space that we've often found Kane in this season, so unless Kane was was going to find himself working wide on the right there would be no one there and hence it wouldn't be a 433. If you have a Bale then yes you can 100% play 433 but with Dybala I just don't see how it works.
     
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    JerusalemMan Paul Stalteri

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    Wonder if Zaniolo would have fitted nicely into that style.
     
  11. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Paul Stewart

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    Penalty Ndombele. Catchy name!
     
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    K.D.D.D.D.Soc John Lacy

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    P E N A L T Y Ndombele!
     
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    Raziel Les Ferdinand

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    Kandi1977 Paul Stewart

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    MKSpur Jimmy Neighbour

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    Just a shame it was his own penalty box!
     
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    Finney Is Back Paul Walsh

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    Perfect training for Mourinho ball! :D
     
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    demotw Carlo Cudicini

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    I dont think it matters if no-one uses it currently, football over the years has a history of re-hashing old formations and that becoming the norm. Generally people emulate successful teams so if using a diamond formation worked for us other teams would adopt.
     
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    Gilzeantoscore Mitchell Thomas

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    This guy is slowing down the tempo of out play. He is hanging oto the ball too long and not passing fast enough.
     
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    Kandi1977 Paul Stewart

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    He's playing in a dysfunctional team that lack just about everything. Often there are no one to play it to.
     
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    Bishop Ruel Fox

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    Mourinho is not the manager for a cm of his ilk. He's never previously played a CM with his playstyle and I'm fairly certain he would never have bought him in the first place.
     

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