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Rugby

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by Dayo, 11 Oct 2014.

  1. Dayo

    Dayo Chris Armstrong

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    Such a nice sport. If this happened in football you would never hear the end of it. How come this isn't frowned upon more?

    [video=youtube;Eie7maojvr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eie7maojvr0#t=67[/video]
     
  2. billyiddo

    billyiddo David Ginola Staff Member

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    i like the look of the ref clam :)
     
  3. the dza

    the dza Christian Ziege

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    The sport has a "just get on with it" nature I suppose. Punching like that is pretty rare though, I know it happens in rugby, but I've not seen someone get knocked down and then punched again in the head for good measure!

    Most footballers haven't got it in them :lol:
     
  4. Notmegov

    Notmegov Tim Sherwood

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    Ref clam is brilliant they use it in union as well would be great in football but as the guy above said football has not got the balls.
     
  5. Rorschach

    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    Genius. We need this in football.
     
  6. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    ****ing ridiculous. why isnt he in prison?
     
  7. Roy1983

    Roy1983 Edward Sheringham

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    Silly steroid pumping prick.
     
  8. Jurgen the German

    Jurgen the German Chris Jones

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    Didn't you know Rugby is a gentleman's sport mate. I mean there's punching, headbutting and eye gouging (which is a dreadful thing to do to someone as you could theoretically blind them), but it's still a gentleman's sport.
     
  9. Mr_B

    Mr_B Jose Dominguez

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    “Football is a gentleman’s game played by ruffians; rugby is a ruffian’s game played by gentlemen”
     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot Gudni Bergsson

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    Yeah agree.

    I didn't realise it was the first 2 mins of the game until they mention it at the end. Jesus!
     
  11. spasm

    spasm Gudni Bergsson

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    handbags...pfttt 8-[
     
  12. Baleforce

    Baleforce Mel Hopkins

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    stupid game
     
  13. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    The guy shouldnt have done it, in his defence it was a local derby in Rugby's biggest game, the St Helen's guy caught him 1st but his reaction was wrong, he cost his team the Grand Final and as a Wigan fan for all my life Im disappointed in him
     
  14. Richie

    Richie Naybet

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    Obviously this would be a bigger deal in football because football is more popular sport than Rugby league. It'd be a bigger deal if it happened in a union game too.

    When it happens in football, it looks more like this:

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    Jurgen the German Chris Jones

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    Richie is correct, this would be getting more attention if it was football as football is more popular and mainstream. Still, more should be made of this, just because Rugby is played by public schoolboys doesn't mean it isn't a thugs game. A lot of people like to knock the NFL, but I don't see what skill you require to be a rugby player.
     
  16. jts1882

    jts1882 Simon Davies

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    It is Rugby Union that is supposed to be the gentleman's game, that was Rugby League.

    The image of the game does make me think of a famous example of simulation (before it was called simulation) in rugby. In a game against Wales or the British Lions, an All Black forward threw himself out of the lineout and the ref gave a match and series winning pelanty. This was 40 years ago.
     
  17. Bullet

    Bullet Cecil Poynton

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    Watch it from the wide angle. The St Helens guy started it and niggled him and chased after him to whack him when the ball wasn't there; that is why the Wigan guy punched him.
     
  18. Richie

    Richie Naybet

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    By that token what skill do you need to be a sprinter? Being an athlete is an ability in itself, on top of which you need to be able to pass, catch, tackle, ruck, maul, scrum and kick.
     
  19. Richie

    Richie Naybet

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    I know a lot of good standard rugby players and a lot of footballers and the footballers are way bigger cnuts.

    Also just look at the way rugby players react to refereeing decisions for all you need to know about the game in comparison to football.
     
  20. jts1882

    jts1882 Simon Davies

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    I think the different respect for referees is largely footballs own making. In football there is the philosophy that the referee is always right and does not need to account for decisions, which flies in the face of reality. For instance, the rules against reversing cards if the referee has seen the incident even when it is obvious he didn't see the important part. Or the reluctance to use technology as it will undermine the authority, as if he isn't undermined by videos showing the 50,000 people in the crowd and millions at home that the decision is wrong.

    In contrast, the rugby the referee gets help and has tools to enforce the respect. The moving a pelanty 10m or even reversing a decision stamps out dissent. Let a referee cancel/reverse a pelanty when players surround him to ask for the player to be sent off. Can you imagine a manager like Fergie not doing something if his players kept getting penalised for dissent. Then you have the video technology where the referee can ask specific questions, from the general "any reason why I can't give the try" (any aspect including forward passes, crossing or failure to ground the ball) to a specific "can you check the ball was grounded". The referee is treated with respect because he is accountable and everyone behaves like grown ups.

    The audio channel is also good as we get to understand what he is thinking. For instance, if we heard a player told to get up for diving or stop holding the short, the a subsequent booking would be clear. Players would soon stop swearing if fined and suspended when caught on mike. And the moment a rugby referee told George Gregan "Shut up, George. I'll do the refereeing" was priceless.
     

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