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Refereeing/ blaming referee

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Kandi1977, 9 Mar 2015.

  1. braineclipse

    braineclipse Jimmy Cantrell

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    Disagree. Relative to the impact they have on the game the refs get a lot of attention in most sports. Of course the amount of attention football gets increases that attention.
     
  2. Joesh

    Joesh Tony Parks

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    A lot of good points here but I don't think you can overhaul a system all at once. At the moment refs are often bullied in to decisions by players and managers. As already pointed out, this is easy to stop with yellow/red cards. No cost and it can be applied to all levels of football and it could start today. It is so refreshing watching rugby which makes football like WWE in comparison where the ref is left to do his job.

    Football is entertaining and thrilling at times but it is also a morally corrupt greedy sport played in bad spirit mostly. You have players who swear,bully, spit, bite, dive, feign injury and even racially abuse others. You have arrogant managers who deflect sole blame on the ref complaining of campaigns against their team, who spend half the game berating the 4th official and few give genuine credit to the opposition as GHod forbid, maybe their team got outplayed. You have fans who sing racist, antisemite and generally foul mouthed nasty songs- as low as singing about plane crashes, spending again half the game moaning/swearing, groaning and booing instead of GHod forbid supporting their own team.

    Despite, all that the ref is the main problem??
     
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  3. parklane1

    parklane1 Willie Hall

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    GHod help us :eek: not being funny but do you live in the states.
     
  4. parklane1

    parklane1 Willie Hall

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    That's because its so easy to blame refs, there has always got to be a spacegoat ( especially when your team gets beat).
     
  5. Baleforce

    Baleforce Micky Hazard

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    sadly not
     
  6. parklane1

    parklane1 Willie Hall

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    Just wondered why you would want the game to last forever like most American sports. Not having a go at American sports as I am a big baseball fan.
     
  7. Baleforce

    Baleforce Micky Hazard

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    i don't care how long it lasts, i want the result to be exactly representative of what occurred on the pitch
     
  8. parklane1

    parklane1 Willie Hall

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    Well as I said GHod help us if that happens.
     
  9. Jurgen the German

    Jurgen the German Paul Stewart

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    How much longer would the game be extended by? Let's say each team had one challenge or perhaps two? How many games descend into chaos for minutes on end because of a massive disagreement on the pitch between the ref and the two teams? I would happily introduce video replays purely for sendings off and incidents in the penalty box.

    But the biggest thing I would like to change is the stupid rule that the FA cannot act if the ref has seen the incident, but took no action. It's ludicrous, everyone in every walk of life and industry makes mistakes, refs are no different.

    There is simply too much on the line these days for clubs financially to just shrug your shoulders if the ref costs a team their place in the league or a trophy and say "it all evens out" or that's football.
     
  10. Neymar

    Neymar Biggest Bozo 2015 Gooner WUM

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    completely agree. at the very least, they should change the rules so that any act of violence, gross misconduct, assault etc will be dealt with retrospectively, regardless of whether the ref thinks he saw something or not.
     
  11. Baleforce

    Baleforce Micky Hazard

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    fully agree with the retrospective action, that would stop half this stuff overnight
     
  12. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Dimitar Berbatov

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    I wonder if Collina would've still been held in quite such high esteem had he done a stint in the PL and thus come under the scrutiny of pundits assessing every decision with multi-angle HD replays... could've been entertaining watching Terry and the rest of the Chavs try to bully him into doing their bidding though...

     
  13. Bullet

    Bullet Tom Huddlestone

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    I'm not a big rugby fan, but rugby has it right, a camera and microphone on the ref, and utmost respect from the teams, they do what he tells them to do, or they are put in a sin bin for 10 minutes to think about it.

    And they send any close calls to the TV ref who takes about 20 seconds to view it from all angles. And if he still gets it wrong, it proves it is a mega tough decision where 6 TV angles are inconclusive, so that is fair enough really.

    What angers me most in football is when a decision is clearly wrong but I am not angry at the ref, that poor sod sees it once, whilst running, whilst wiping sweat out of his eyes, he has no chance really, I'm amazed they get so much right. I am angry at the lack of TV refs; we've all seen it is the wrong decision on TV within 10 seconds, meanwhile the next 75 minutes of the game are my favourite buttplug.
     
  14. camspur

    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    What other big spectator sports are there?

    Cricket - used technology for a long while as an aid to decision making
    Rugby - ditto
    Tennis - ditto
    American Football - ditto plus 7 "referees" each with a specific area to look at.
    Baseball - Who cares :)

    Soccer - still relies on one referee who is often 10 to 20 yards away in an obscured position required to make a decision aided by two assistants who don't assist.
     
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    camspur Neil Sullivan

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    Add in being surrounded by players shouting in his face and often from an obscured position because they are not fit enough to keep up with play.
     
  16. Mr_B

    Mr_B Jose Dominguez

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    it seems to me that refs have been instructed NOT to give to penalties unless its absolutely blatant, the only exception being the pen southampton got against chelsea - it seems the diving thing has got so out of hand refs are erring on the side of caution, I wish there was more consistency from linos, as they can see down the line, most have a better view than the refs, some are flag wavers and help the refs, others are just content flagging for offside and that's it.

    I'm not a big fan of replays, it makes watching an NFL game painful, using the other 2 officials on the pitch more would be a start, they should be consulted on every big decision
     
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    jts1882 Vedran Corluka

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    Even when they add help in UEFA games, the extra officials seem to do even more non-assisting.

    The Wales-Ireland game at the week-end had an excellent example of how it works. Early in the game the referee made a number of fairly strict calls on both sides, explained to them each time how he would be refereeing that aspect and later during play telling them to get away to avoid further calls. Later in the game we had long sequences of play without penalties because the players knew what they could and couldn't do.
     
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    SpursNorway Ilie Dumitrescu

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    Bullet Tom Huddlestone

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    Mr_B Jose Dominguez

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