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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry Nick Barmby

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    It's what happens when you don't invest and insist on lowest cost options (as apposed to best value) for public sector services and provisions - it what Tories do, short term solutions to keep things plugging along rather than investment to increase quality.
     
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    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    Rorschach Vic Buckingham

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    Disgraceful
     
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  4. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Peter Taylor

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    "£30" bag provided by Compass Group as the school meals has been privatised.

    Which begs the question, if that's what is provided for £30 where has the rest of the money gone? You could buy all that in Waitrose and it still would come to £10.

    Sickening. 6th richest country in the world.
     
  5. Seedy Ron

    Seedy Ron Edgar Davids

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    I think you already know the answer to that one.

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  6. Baleforce

    Baleforce Bert Bliss

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    disgusting isn't it, adding a layer where it's not needed, just give people the fudging money and let them do their own shopping
     
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  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    Vouchers.
     
  8. P.D.

    P.D. Chris Armstrong

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    What a joke, I think a whole bag of carrots is only 60-70p for starters. £30 in Lidl or Aldi would go a long way.
     
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  9. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    If I was one of the supermarkets I'd be all over this. Good PR. Access to cheap supply chains and a delivery network already rolling. C.untpass reckoning they've done £30 on that. Do me a favour.
     
  10. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Wasn’t the decision to do it this way part of the push from the labour back benches
    The conservatives wants to use vouchers but the labour chaps said this way they knew people would get the food...
    And I also believe the outsourcing is done by each local authority. Not sure who else would be providing the food as there isn’t an infrastructure for it. These are the school catering contracts
    Doesn’t make it good by the way but there are quite a lot of examples where people have been given what is a fair reflection on £30. The example above though clearly isn’t one
     
  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    the retailers are petrified because their damned if they do, and damned if they don’t
    Say they get together and offer the service. They will need to man it and provide local logistics. The cost of the goods issued to the person would not be £30 worth though once that cost is taken away (it’s about 15% to do that kind of service). So actually people would get £25 worth of food.... the complaints then would be worse than this
    And of course when that company turnover goes up because of this their will be A backlash that their profiteering
    I know from my days working in retail to steer well clear of this
     
  12. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    They work. Simply put they have controls in place so that certain things can and can’t be brought. The issue is people need to go to the shop to use them. But I believe it’s a fat more effective way of letting families use the money better for their kids
     
  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    That’s actually £10.50 worth of food, not £30
    It was miss reported due to Twitter rumours
     
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  14. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Pat van den Hauwe

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    On the radio this morning Baroness Boycott, who heads a Food/Poverty charity or something and advises government, said that the government should have put this in the hands of local authorities as they are best placed to work with local providers. The implication being that this is not what is happening.
    She did make a fair point about providers being caught out as the expectation (as per government statements) was that children would be at school this term. In practice there was just one day, so there has been some scrambling around to get things set up. Most (she says) are still doing this well.

    There are clearly questions to be answered though in terms of how money is being spent by some contractors.
     
  15. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    I’ve been told by our schools it’s in the hands of the local authorities
    I’ve also been told that at work as we outsource catering across the globe
    Either way... the misrepresentation due to social media is quite poor really
    Someone tweets 3 days worth of food as £30 worth and it causes a storm
    Sorry I’ve edited to add that it’s not the school who told us it was the LA, it was a governor
     
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  16. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Pat van den Hauwe

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    I think she meant local councils rather than LEAs. She must have done because she said they could for example partner with local cafes to provide the meals, keeping the spend local and keeping jobs going.
    Nice idea but I don't know quite how practical that would be - sounds like it could be a bit hit and miss.
     
  17. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Guess the issues would be paying those cafes
    It’s a great idea TBF
     
  18. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    Diamond Lights Peter Taylor

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    It's definitely not £10.50 even if you include P&P. A 1KG bag of carrots is 45p ffs!
     
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    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    No it’s £5.50 retail
    But it was for a £10.50 charge
     

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