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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. DTA

    DTA Niko Kranjcar

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    BLASPHEMY. I like Paris but it doesn't even make my top 3.
     
  2. DTA

    DTA Niko Kranjcar

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    3. Stop them being able to sell advertising to companies operating in the UK, unless they comply.

    4.Agree with the cranks... but just because one problem maybe as bad or worse, doesn't mean we should ignore the other problem.
     
  3. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    :D

    The restaurants are better, the shops are better, the views parks and scenery are better. London has better hotels and theatre though.
     
  4. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Vedran Corluka

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    I’m a big fan of Paris too! Prob my number 1 city but never been to NY.
     
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  5. parklane1

    parklane1 Jimmy Cantrell

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    Amsterdam for me, spent some time there in the middle 70's great time was had :cool:
     
  6. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Ian Walker

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    It's turned into a bit of a tourist playground in the center now. Like a theme park. Was probably more fun in the 70s. Went for the first time in the late 90s and met a fella on the ferry who let us have his squat flat for free while we were there. Awesome city.
     
  7. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Edgar Davids

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    The interference in voting is a funny one for me. There was a guy from the Statesman on BBC yesterday who said the Scottish referendum was interfered with by the Russians (or tried) but people had such a strong view of stay or leave that it did not work in the slightest. Thats not playing down the impact or potential impact just an interesting titbit.

    The difficulty with social media and influence on democracy is that be it Russia, news outlet, blogger or individual person its hard to stop miss information and someone can start a rumour or a false hood as a individual as effectively as a country and by the end of the day it can be spread by famous people and gather pace, how do you stop that?

    I see it all the time when famous people with 100s of Thousands of followers have shared a video or a picture to drive a political point only for it to be found wrong, be it by year or circumstance etc. There were loads flying about when BLM hit its heights recently where people were sharing videos with a false explanation, these things can easily cause peoples to have a clear POV based on what they have seen.

    So although this Russia and press stuff is a problem I do believe as humans we have a few barriers to protect us which include our own mind and our own ability to research extensively what we read to make up or our minds. Its like a tipster on twitter telling me a certain horse is going to win a race, to I believe them? Or do I have the ability to read the form, choose how much I want to bet, research the tipster and ultimately decide on my own with the resources I have it I want to have a bet.

    One of the issues the human races treating social media in a way you don't every day life. I worked with a famous Canadian tech head and he said posting pictures of your kids on the web is the same as putting them on lamposts for randoms to see, you do one but not the other and he is right. And information works where if you read it on twitter from BOB who you dont know you believe but if he came up to you on the street and said it you would laugh it off. So alot of this is on the public, not the government to deal with, we have a personal responsibility that I have noticed recently people want to take less responsibility of and hand over to the government so there is some blame to attach.

    The Government can do more, all governments can, however people do need to take more personal responsibility for things that affect them, like health, lifestyle, money, work, crime etc etc
     
  8. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Edgar Davids

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    I think seeing this post you are writing your own narrative that is not exactly reflective of what is being said.

    The point is that in terms of Russia's interference in the elections and I am sure in far more dangerous areas, however as with all cyber related crime I put trust in our security services who are world class to continue and carry on with their work that is a daily task with not only Russia but many nations. We ourselves are no doubt using the web to interfere and spy on other nations. So it is less about not caring but more realising this is all one big long fight, not a time to jump up and down about something specific.

    As for the EU comments I think its a interesting thing to mention as I saw someone on the news today liken Russias interference in elections to Germany car manufacturers getting unfair advantages and leg ups in the market due to fudged EU regulations that protected their industries, Merkel putting spanners in the works to protect BMW and Audi was famous at the time. Equally a form of espionage so conversely, your level of fury with Russia should be the same on the EU.
     
  9. Parklaner81

    Parklaner81 Steve Hodge

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    I'm the opposite - haven't spent much time in Paris, but find it impossible to look past New York on this debate. If I had a magic wand & could erase the events of the past few months, it'd be the first place I'd head to after doing it.
     
  10. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Edgar Davids

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    Vancouver - Lisbon - London
     
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  11. parklane1

    parklane1 Jimmy Cantrell

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    I do agree with you about those who form their opinions from what they read on SM ( especially T w A A t er) You have to feel sorry for those that do.
     
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    Grays_1890 Edgar Davids

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    Yeh I do, those that are genuinely of that intellect and I mean that in a non condescending way I feel bad for. But there are those that should know better. There are also those of high intellect pushing crap who should know better
     
  13. galeforce

    galeforce Ricky Villa

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    City chat, Gothenburg is probably my favourite.
     
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    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    Vienna, Geneva and San Sebastian too - missed them from my list.
     
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    SpurMeUp Ian Walker

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    Havana, New York, Moscow (in the summer), London, Amsterdam, Naples.

    Not sure how I’d get that down to a top 3. Someone needs to start a top 3 cities thread.


    Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
  16. DTA

    DTA Niko Kranjcar

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    For me its London, Istanbul and Rome
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Frederic Kanoute

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  18. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    Havana is on my bucket list once the kids are older.

    Naples is a dirty, crime-ridden, poverty hole. Holidaying there is like going to London and ignoring Mayfair for Harlesden.
     
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    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    Just joining in on the favourite cities tangent...

    Mexico City, Paris, Copenhagen, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Moscow and St.Petersberg are all favourites. Used to love Rio. Will always love Manhattan even though it is not the same as it was 20 years ago...but Mexico City is thrilling!!! And with Chich's reminder, I must add Rome (epic always) and Florence (had some great times there)...I'll even throw Venice in there but must be done in early Spring or late Autumn as otherwise the heat is too much.
     
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  20. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Les Medley

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    Hated Naples, and my mothers father was from there. Was expecting to feel a link to it but hated it.

    Rome and Florence on the other hand i adore.
     
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