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Ian Walker
I'm going for 3-1 win for us; Kane at the double plus Son with the other; Aubameyang for them
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*** OMT - Tottenham Hotspur v Borussia Dortmund ***
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awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Sanchez's pace will be handy with Aubamayang around. None of our other defenders are quick when its Trippier and Davies as full backs. Rose and Aurier admittedly change that.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
European badger
American Badger
Honey Badger
javan ferret-badger
Palawan stink badger
There are some cracking badgers there it has to be said
In order of preference though I'd go
Honey Badger who actually looks like a punk badger
Stink Badger as that name is great
American
European
Ferret
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
Borussia Dortmund: a club whose plan is working almost too well
The German side have worked hard to establish themselves as the best place in Europe for young, talented players but they had not planned to lose Ousmane Dembélé to Barcelona after only a year
The news was good yet the atmosphere seemed somewhat subdued. The Borussia Dortmund CEO, Hans-Joachim Watzke, was delivering an update on the club’s financial situation – record turnover of €400m (£364m) for 2016-17 and an astonishing profit of €134m since 2011 – but no one appeared to be that interested. There was only one story in town and that whether Ousmane Dembélé was going to join Barcelona.
In the end the 20-year-old Frenchman joined the Catalan club for £96.7m and while that will make Dortmund’s figures even prettier next year it has severely diminished the club’s chances of challenging at home and in Europe, where they kick off their Champions Leaguecampaign against Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley on Wednesday. In fact, the whole saga has completely overshadowed an already turbulent summer and it is only now that the new manager, Peter Bosz, knows what kind of a squad he has at his disposal.
That is not unusual in itself, with clubs all over Europe recalibrating after the last days of the transfer window, but few clubs will have lost a bigger talent than Dortmund. Add to that the tension that surrounded Thomas Tuchel’s last few months at the club and the terrible attack on the team bus in April that shocked the whole club and left the defender Marc Bartra out injured for a month and it is clear that it has been a hugely testing year for everyone.
The main problem with the Dembélé move was not that he joined Barcelona – it was anticipated he would leave at some point – but that he had been at the club for only a year. Apart from that, he had been the perfect Dortmund signing: a young, talented player who had been given a chance in the first team, excelled and seen his value increase beyond all dreams.
It is what Dortmund do best and to give them their credit, they had worked incredibly hard to sign Dembélé. They had been in contact with him for a long period, telling him how much they rated him and that he would get his chance in the starting XI immediately. “Dortmund showed their interest in me from a very early stage,” he said when he joined, “and were in close contact with me throughout – and that behaviour really impressed me. I knew that they would look after me.”
The Dembélé signing in May 2016 was only one of several triumphs for the club in the transfer market. Over the past few years they have established themselves as the No1 club for young players to be nurtured.
This season Bosz has no fewer than 10 players aged 23 or younger in his first-team squad. When the Swedish wonderkid Alexander Isak was leaving AIK in January 2017 he chose Dortmund ahead of Real Madrid. The 17-year-old Jadon Sancho left Emirates Marketing Project for the Bundesliga club during the summer while Dan-Axel Zagadou, an 18-year-old French defender, felt similarly out of the first-team picture at Paris St-Germain and he too opted for Dortmund.
All three must have been encouraged by the chances given to Dembélé and Christian Pulisic, the young American forward who has played 41 times in the league for Dortmund despite being only 18. Zagadou has already played three times for the first team.
Dig further and there is an array of talent at the club’s youth teams as well, with Janni Serra, Dzenis Burnic, Jan-Niklas Beste and Manuel Pherai, whose adviser is none other than Mino Raiola, among the players the club have high hopes for.
As for the here and now, Dortmund have started their league season with two wins and a draw. They travel to London in good spirits but with a mounting injury crisis. The club captain, Marcel Schmelzer, has been ruled out for several weeks with an ankle problem and Bartra is a doubt with a thigh injury, also suffered in the 0-0 draw against Freiburg on Saturday.
Add to that the long-term absentees Marco Reus, Raphaël Guerreiro and André Schürrle and the fact that the club’s best midfielder, Julian Weigl, is just returning from a lengthy time on the sidelines and the challenge facing Bosz is pretty clear.
So far the former Ajax manager has given Pulisic the chance to replace Dembélé to the right in a front three and he has responded superbly. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang still leads the line despite interest from Milan this summer with Maximilian Philipp, a £17.5m signing from Freiburg, on the left, although another summer arrival, the Ukrainian Andriy Yarmolenko, could start at Wembley.
Either way, this season should really be one of transition considering the loss of Dembélé and the fact that a new manager is in place. Dortmund, however, have surprised before and try telling the ultra-competitive Bosz that they will not challenge this season.
But no matter how they end up doing, the future is bright for Dortmund and they are an example to many a club. They have a long history of giving young players a chance and they will continue to do that.
As Lars Ricken, the 1997 Champions League winner who is the head of youth development at the club, recently said: “Promoting players from our own youth teams, such as Pulisic, Felix Passlack, Schmelzer, Götze, Reus or Nuri Sahin, who have now reached almost legend status, is for Borussia Dortmund’s identity extremely important.”
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ts-ousmane-dembele-tottenham-champions-league
The German side have worked hard to establish themselves as the best place in Europe for young, talented players but they had not planned to lose Ousmane Dembélé to Barcelona after only a year
The news was good yet the atmosphere seemed somewhat subdued. The Borussia Dortmund CEO, Hans-Joachim Watzke, was delivering an update on the club’s financial situation – record turnover of €400m (£364m) for 2016-17 and an astonishing profit of €134m since 2011 – but no one appeared to be that interested. There was only one story in town and that whether Ousmane Dembélé was going to join Barcelona.
In the end the 20-year-old Frenchman joined the Catalan club for £96.7m and while that will make Dortmund’s figures even prettier next year it has severely diminished the club’s chances of challenging at home and in Europe, where they kick off their Champions Leaguecampaign against Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley on Wednesday. In fact, the whole saga has completely overshadowed an already turbulent summer and it is only now that the new manager, Peter Bosz, knows what kind of a squad he has at his disposal.
That is not unusual in itself, with clubs all over Europe recalibrating after the last days of the transfer window, but few clubs will have lost a bigger talent than Dortmund. Add to that the tension that surrounded Thomas Tuchel’s last few months at the club and the terrible attack on the team bus in April that shocked the whole club and left the defender Marc Bartra out injured for a month and it is clear that it has been a hugely testing year for everyone.
The main problem with the Dembélé move was not that he joined Barcelona – it was anticipated he would leave at some point – but that he had been at the club for only a year. Apart from that, he had been the perfect Dortmund signing: a young, talented player who had been given a chance in the first team, excelled and seen his value increase beyond all dreams.
It is what Dortmund do best and to give them their credit, they had worked incredibly hard to sign Dembélé. They had been in contact with him for a long period, telling him how much they rated him and that he would get his chance in the starting XI immediately. “Dortmund showed their interest in me from a very early stage,” he said when he joined, “and were in close contact with me throughout – and that behaviour really impressed me. I knew that they would look after me.”
The Dembélé signing in May 2016 was only one of several triumphs for the club in the transfer market. Over the past few years they have established themselves as the No1 club for young players to be nurtured.
This season Bosz has no fewer than 10 players aged 23 or younger in his first-team squad. When the Swedish wonderkid Alexander Isak was leaving AIK in January 2017 he chose Dortmund ahead of Real Madrid. The 17-year-old Jadon Sancho left Emirates Marketing Project for the Bundesliga club during the summer while Dan-Axel Zagadou, an 18-year-old French defender, felt similarly out of the first-team picture at Paris St-Germain and he too opted for Dortmund.
All three must have been encouraged by the chances given to Dembélé and Christian Pulisic, the young American forward who has played 41 times in the league for Dortmund despite being only 18. Zagadou has already played three times for the first team.
Dig further and there is an array of talent at the club’s youth teams as well, with Janni Serra, Dzenis Burnic, Jan-Niklas Beste and Manuel Pherai, whose adviser is none other than Mino Raiola, among the players the club have high hopes for.
As for the here and now, Dortmund have started their league season with two wins and a draw. They travel to London in good spirits but with a mounting injury crisis. The club captain, Marcel Schmelzer, has been ruled out for several weeks with an ankle problem and Bartra is a doubt with a thigh injury, also suffered in the 0-0 draw against Freiburg on Saturday.
Add to that the long-term absentees Marco Reus, Raphaël Guerreiro and André Schürrle and the fact that the club’s best midfielder, Julian Weigl, is just returning from a lengthy time on the sidelines and the challenge facing Bosz is pretty clear.
So far the former Ajax manager has given Pulisic the chance to replace Dembélé to the right in a front three and he has responded superbly. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang still leads the line despite interest from Milan this summer with Maximilian Philipp, a £17.5m signing from Freiburg, on the left, although another summer arrival, the Ukrainian Andriy Yarmolenko, could start at Wembley.
Either way, this season should really be one of transition considering the loss of Dembélé and the fact that a new manager is in place. Dortmund, however, have surprised before and try telling the ultra-competitive Bosz that they will not challenge this season.
But no matter how they end up doing, the future is bright for Dortmund and they are an example to many a club. They have a long history of giving young players a chance and they will continue to do that.
As Lars Ricken, the 1997 Champions League winner who is the head of youth development at the club, recently said: “Promoting players from our own youth teams, such as Pulisic, Felix Passlack, Schmelzer, Götze, Reus or Nuri Sahin, who have now reached almost legend status, is for Borussia Dortmund’s identity extremely important.”
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ts-ousmane-dembele-tottenham-champions-league
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
So, we will be going into another CL campaign. Surely, we have to do much better than last season. It was really disappointing the way we exit the CL in Group stage last season, finishing behind Monaco and Bayer Leverkusen. It is going to be even tougher this season, with Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in our group. But we have nothing to lose. Want us to put up a much better performance this time and give Real and Borussia a run for their money.
Firstly, we need to overcome our Wembley jinx. To do that, we have to rely on our key players like Kane. I think Kane will be our key player as we tend to play well when he plays well and scores ! Let's hope he will get a goal or two here. Too bad Alli's moment of stupidity against Gent last season means he will be suspended for 3 CL matches. We are going to miss his movements and goals. Let's hope players like Eriksen will step up and inspire us.
I think this match will be won or lost in midfield. Too bad Wanyama and Lamela will be out injured. We need Dier and Dembele play to their potential and control the midfield. Or maybe Sissoko will be our secret weapon in midfield ! It seems like the football world is still shocked from seeing Sissoko playing well suddenly against Everton ! Let's hope the real Sissoko will turn up against Dortmund if he gets to play !
Our defence played well against Everton with Sanchez having a perfect debut. We will need the defence to have another perfect match again. Dortmund have many good attacking players who can trouble us if given a chance. We need to avoid giving them any freekicks near our goal. Want us to play a safety-first football in defence ! There is no need to be too ambitious.
It is going to be a tense match. We have never been really convincing in any Cup matches under Pochettino so far. So, Pochettino needs to find the right formula in Cup matches. Let's hope we will turn up with the right team and mentality to overcome the Wembley jinx by beating Dortmund !
Firstly, we need to overcome our Wembley jinx. To do that, we have to rely on our key players like Kane. I think Kane will be our key player as we tend to play well when he plays well and scores ! Let's hope he will get a goal or two here. Too bad Alli's moment of stupidity against Gent last season means he will be suspended for 3 CL matches. We are going to miss his movements and goals. Let's hope players like Eriksen will step up and inspire us.
I think this match will be won or lost in midfield. Too bad Wanyama and Lamela will be out injured. We need Dier and Dembele play to their potential and control the midfield. Or maybe Sissoko will be our secret weapon in midfield ! It seems like the football world is still shocked from seeing Sissoko playing well suddenly against Everton ! Let's hope the real Sissoko will turn up against Dortmund if he gets to play !
Our defence played well against Everton with Sanchez having a perfect debut. We will need the defence to have another perfect match again. Dortmund have many good attacking players who can trouble us if given a chance. We need to avoid giving them any freekicks near our goal. Want us to play a safety-first football in defence ! There is no need to be too ambitious.
It is going to be a tense match. We have never been really convincing in any Cup matches under Pochettino so far. So, Pochettino needs to find the right formula in Cup matches. Let's hope we will turn up with the right team and mentality to overcome the Wembley jinx by beating Dortmund !
spurspinter1
Paul Stalteri
There's no better match to do ourselves justice in Europe. Got to start positive, rather than looking like a recently formed pub team like last season in the competition.
Come on you fudging Spurs, let's make an impact.
30 yard overhead kick stunner from Sissoko, assisted by a passing badger, it's the only way.
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Come on you fudging Spurs, let's make an impact.
30 yard overhead kick stunner from Sissoko, assisted by a passing badger, it's the only way.
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NorwegianSpursFan
Neil Ruddock
Some training footage if anyone is interested.
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Will be a fast paced game, two young skilful teams on the biggest stage. Wembley in the fcking Champions League, nice!
PochettinoPochettinoPochettino
Serge Aurier
For what should actually be 15 mins of boring TV I found that really interesting as I guess any Spurs fan would. I dont think I have seen any Spurs training videos before but you can see how good professionals touches and movements and passes are cant you by the speed they do things and I am assuming that was some light exercises. Imagine what it gets like when it is pretty intense.
Ade's folks are ok really
Ramon Vega
Shame this fixture popped up first really, as I think it's probably the most important game of the 6 for us.
There'll undoubtedly be a twist somewhere along the lines, but i'm working on the assumption we'll likely get nothing at Madrid home or away, should take 6 points off Nicosia, with Dortmund doing the same. Therefore leaving the home and away fixtures against BVB being the decisive ones. So if we come away tonight with a defeat, it'll be win at all costs in Germany. A draw isn't the worst thing but I can see Dortmund playing for a point knowing full well we can be vulnerable to the counter attack and get nervy in the final 10-20 mins.
Their pace and movement on the large space offered at Wembley worries me. I'm looking at you specifically, Pierre!!
There'll undoubtedly be a twist somewhere along the lines, but i'm working on the assumption we'll likely get nothing at Madrid home or away, should take 6 points off Nicosia, with Dortmund doing the same. Therefore leaving the home and away fixtures against BVB being the decisive ones. So if we come away tonight with a defeat, it'll be win at all costs in Germany. A draw isn't the worst thing but I can see Dortmund playing for a point knowing full well we can be vulnerable to the counter attack and get nervy in the final 10-20 mins.
Their pace and movement on the large space offered at Wembley worries me. I'm looking at you specifically, Pierre!!
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Levante and Valencia have both earned draws against Madrid this season so why can't we?
Hidden
Luke Young
Ronaldo absence factor for example?
Still think we will give them a strong fight (at least at Bernabeu
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Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
I think a lot of people got over hyped about our performance against a really open Everton side that were set up perfectly for us.
We wont play an easier top level game all season.
Davies had so much space. Eriksen and Alli weren't picked up. Everton's front 4 had no interest in tracking us or pressing us. Sissoko got praised for not making any huge fudge ups. He created one chance all game. AVB would have loved some of his passing backwards to Trippier.
But in saying all that, tonight could be the night we impose ourselves on Europe finally.
Season after season Poch has played half arsed line up with players saved for the weekend. That is over with this group.
Dortmund aren't the European super power every broadsheet journo rates them as. They finished 3rd in their league, 18 points back. Arsenal finished 18 points back in the Premier League.
They have a overhyped journeyman Dutch manager who jumped at the chance to move there. This is all based on a single season at Ajax: getting knocked out of the CL play offs, getting a lucky Europa league draw until he was tactically embarrassed in the final, losing the league.
If we go out tonight and play our best, we can destroy them. I have faith in Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Dier, Vertonghen and Alderweireld. But I have questions of what type of performances the rest will pull out on the biggest stage. They need to step up tonight.
We wont play an easier top level game all season.
Davies had so much space. Eriksen and Alli weren't picked up. Everton's front 4 had no interest in tracking us or pressing us. Sissoko got praised for not making any huge fudge ups. He created one chance all game. AVB would have loved some of his passing backwards to Trippier.
But in saying all that, tonight could be the night we impose ourselves on Europe finally.
Season after season Poch has played half arsed line up with players saved for the weekend. That is over with this group.
Dortmund aren't the European super power every broadsheet journo rates them as. They finished 3rd in their league, 18 points back. Arsenal finished 18 points back in the Premier League.
They have a overhyped journeyman Dutch manager who jumped at the chance to move there. This is all based on a single season at Ajax: getting knocked out of the CL play offs, getting a lucky Europa league draw until he was tactically embarrassed in the final, losing the league.
If we go out tonight and play our best, we can destroy them. I have faith in Kane, Eriksen, Dembele, Dier, Vertonghen and Alderweireld. But I have questions of what type of performances the rest will pull out on the biggest stage. They need to step up tonight.
superspurs
Justin Edinburgh
3,000th post to say...
We're gonna win 3-2.
COYS.
We're gonna win 3-2.
COYS.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Unless you have a time machine.
StephenH
David Ginola
Yes how silly of me!
Kenyan Spur
Peter Taylor
Saw the youth game against Dortmund.
I was channel hoping on our local sports channels and noticed it was "live"
Where was it played ?
There was a very little crowd. The players didn't have names on the shirts.
Anyway, we won 4-0
According to to commentary, our goal scorers were Sterling, Bennett and Edwards (2)
Maybe, a GHod omen for the senior game.
Waiting for the main game that starts at 10pm our time. Hope I can stay awake till the end.
COYS
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I was channel hoping on our local sports channels and noticed it was "live"
Where was it played ?
There was a very little crowd. The players didn't have names on the shirts.
Anyway, we won 4-0
According to to commentary, our goal scorers were Sterling, Bennett and Edwards (2)
Maybe, a GHod omen for the senior game.
Waiting for the main game that starts at 10pm our time. Hope I can stay awake till the end.
COYS
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