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Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by billyiddo, 23 Apr 2021.

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Man of the match

Poll closed 27 Apr 2021.
  1. Alderweireld

    23.9%
  2. Lloris

    76.1%
  1. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Chris Perry

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    Sissoko hadn't been on the pitch long.... He came on as a direct replacement for Lo Celso. Surely Lo Celso wasn't detailed to pick up Laporte for corners before Sissoko came on?!?

    It would be interesting to see who was picking up Laporte for City's previous corners I think.

    Or perhaps we were using zonal marking? If so then Kane, Toby and Dier all within a few yards of the near post shows that we were doing a terrible job at it.
     
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  2. Pirate55

    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Frankly , I have no idea what his position is. Too defensively weak to be a DM, too lazy to be a box to box midfielder and not good enough to be a number 10. Imo he is totally unsuited to the PL.
     
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  3. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Chris Perry

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    At the moment he is the best number 10 that we have, though that does assume Kane is playing as the number 9 and Dele is still persona non grata at Spurs.
     
  4. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    I think we do a combo like most sides
    But I don’t know who was marking him earlier
     
  5. a spur from swansea

    a spur from swansea Ronnie Rosenthal

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    Agree, de bruyne gets a new contract for £350k a week, first team i say each one be on £100k+ a week,and i say some are on £250k+.....they nearly got caught fiddling the books by UEFA and nearly get thrown out of the champs league,they dont sell out their home games and an oil rich country props them up .

    They bitch and moan about the euro top 6 last week its them are the instigators of it all,bursting their books high salaries....one rule for them and fudge the rest...
     
  6. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    Well pool are second in wages list at £350m so city are spending more than that
     
  7. Raziel

    Raziel Chris Perry

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    He's a "line breaker", where you play that depends on how you want to set up the team.

    The PL has lots of teams that either have very well setup lines to kill space and cut off passing and/or press to same effect. That was the magic of Dembele, he could receive the ball and go past (ghost) his press and defeat the line.

    Ndombele is the best player we have at that skill, sit off he can pass the ball, press him and he will do his drunken master brick and go past you (even multiple players). That is exactly what was missing against City because their press and discipline cut off anything but longer passes and we had no one capable of going through them (Winks cannot).

    The best players we have against that kind of play is Ndombele, Kane (who by dropping deep either makes space or drags a defender out) and to a lesser extent Lucas (he will beat a man directly) and Lamela (he ghosts players pretty well)
     
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  8. Raziel

    Raziel Chris Perry

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    I would not be surprised if City purposely fudged the ESL with Chelsea (last to join, first ones to leave), ESL would fudge other teams but would have probably evened the odds at the top.
     
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  9. Baleforce

    Baleforce Jack L. Jones

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    yep, would have negated things a fair bit
     
  10. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    Dier sees Laporte, instructs Sissoko, Sissoko is there but simply too slow and soft. The more annoying thing is we saw everything from set-pieces the whole match, including Derp
     
  11. We are Tottenham

    We are Tottenham Jose Dominguez

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    Carragher makes some very good points...
    the thing that upsts me is when our defenders costantly put their hands behind their back when they think a cross or a shot is coming. How do you keep proper balance? your body is instantly at a disadvantage if the attacking player moves forward quickley or changes direction.
    This is like part of spurs culture now..?
     
  12. We are Tottenham

    We are Tottenham Jose Dominguez

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    Because everyone thinks Hojbjerg is the best thing since sliced bread...
     
  13. Baleforce

    Baleforce Jack L. Jones

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    worse in the box than Sissoko
     
  14. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steffen Freund

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    Perhaps the referee thought he was doing Spurs a favour by sparing us having to play a €iteh team reduced to 10 men...

     
  15. afsoc4life

    afsoc4life Jonathan Woodgate

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    Painful but beautiful video. Jamie Carragher take a bow and now I am utterly delighted that I didn't watch on Sunday. I would have been raging all through the week. I agree with him that sexy is lazy punditry. We have had some wonderful sides.
     
  16. braineclipse

    braineclipse Paul Stewart

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    I think worth remembering when watching that City are one of the best drilled pressing teams around and in form. On our side playing our through pressure has been a problem for us for years and I think it's highly unlikely that it's been an area of focus under Mourinho. And we're off form.

    There's a reason why City press like this, because it's effective, because it's really hard to deal with.

    Dier showed "courage" and we almost conceded immediately. It's easy to point out the courageous moves that could have been played, something entirely different to do that as an individual, in a team that hasn't been drilled to do that, against City.
     
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  17. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    5 years vs 5 days
    It’s that simple before you look at £2b investment
     
  18. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steffen Freund

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    Perhaps if Levy can persuade QSI to exchange Mbappe and Neymar for Kane and Son then we can move up a decimal place next season!

     
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  19. a spur from swansea

    a spur from swansea Ronnie Rosenthal

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    Not sure about the point earlier but with free kicks, but lost count this season on when we get a free kick on the half way line or by touchline, sky tv has close up on the injured Spurs player, after the foul, see repeat of say foul on tv, then next scene we see is Lloris has the ball in his hands.............how the fudge did that happen ,we were on the half way line and we decide to go backwards when we got the advantage??... sides press up and we end up kicking the ball into touch after trying to play from the back....feck sake.
     
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  20. Spurs7891

    Spurs7891 Jermaine Jenas

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    Feeling bitter but not really surprised ! Have never been so demotivated and disinterested in our Cup before like this before ! All thanks to Levy for sacking Mourinho before just a few days before the Final, just like how he sacked George Graham before the FA Cup semi final against Arsenal in 2001 ! The moment Mourinho was sacked, we had already lost this Final. It is clear Levy picked the team instead of Mason.

    Surely, a former player like Mason won't be that stupid to pick 3 of our worst players this season, Winks, Sissoko and Bergwijn for a big Cup final like this ! And 2 of our better players, Lamela and Ndombele didn't even play at all ! It is really a stupid team selection ! Not sure how we used the same midfield of Winks and Sissoko who also played in the CL final against Liverpool !

    Wish we had not qualified to this final as it would have been much easier to accept going out in the earlier rounds than the Final. Wish Lamela had not scored that late goal against Chelsea or we had lost in the pelanty shoot outs in Round 4 !

    With this defeat, we have now "
    - gone 13 years without a trophy
    - failed to win a trophy in the year that ends in "1" for the third consecutive times (2001, 2011 and 2021)
    - lost 5 out of 6 Cup Finals since Levy became chairman (2002 League Cup, 2009 League Cup, 2015 League Cup, 2019 Champions League, 2021 League Cup)
    - lost 4 consecutive Cup finals, of them in the League Cup (2009, 2015 and 2021)

    Some unwanted facts :
    - 9 players (Lloris, Alderweireld, Dier, Winks, Sissoko, Alli, Moura, Kane and Son) played in both the 2019 CL Final and this 2021 League Cup final and lost them both - lack of winning meteorology ?
    - 3 players (Lloris, Dier and Kane) played in 3 Cup finals (2015 League Cup, 2019 CL, 2021 League Cup) and lost all 3 - serial losers ?
    - Mason lost 2015 League Cup final as a player and has now lost the 2021 League Cup final as a caretaker manager - tough luck ?
    - Lamela replaced Mason in the 71st min of the 2015 League Cup Final but was an unused sub for the 2019 CL and 2021 League Cup finals - wasted talent ?
    - Davies was unused sub in 2015 League Cup final and 2019 CL final but was dropped for 2021 League Cup final - unlucky ?

    We used to be a Cup winning team but Levy has destroyed our winning meteorology since becoming chairman. Not sure we will ever win another trophy as long as Levy is the chairman. We are fast becoming Newcastle who used to win major trophies but have not failed to win any since 1955 !
     

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