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Match Ratings v Chelsea

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by VolSpur, 24 Mar 2012.

  1. The Moonlit Knight

    The Moonlit Knight Banned

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    On my horse, it's very high
    I agree that attacking players make mistakes. If that had been on VDV's favoured foot I'd have been fuming. And Ade's miss WAS very bad. Easily as bad as Kaboul gifting them a potential pen.

    Never rated Enrique personally. I guess it's what we aspire to be. I want the title. To do that we need defenders who make less mistakes, or an outfield that dominates possession so much that the defence rarely comes under pressure.
     
  2. The Moonlit Knight

    The Moonlit Knight Banned

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    And to your point about Chelsea not creating chances, I do agree. It irks me when players make mistakes that aren't punished and they get high ratings, but it also irks me when a player makes a mistake that gets punished and they get marked down on it because it was punished. Whether they were punished or not is irrelevant, the mistakes are just as bad from an isolated view point.

    But back to your point. One man. Scotty Parker, take a bow!
     
  3. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Pat van den Hauwe

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    Agree. His forward play today was as outstanding as his threat on goal was dire. Despite the latter I still made him our MOTM - and by a distance at that.


    Friedel 7 - stranded when Mata struck the woodwork, some dodgy distribution but his calming influence on our defence was critical.

    Walker 7 - still not so threatening going forward as earlier in the season but decent defensively

    Gallas 7 - understandably rusty early on - in one alarming moment dangerously conceding possession one-on-one with Drogba - and his overall lack of speed and height is a concern, but his leadership qualities today were awesome

    BAE 7 - heavily involved with much good work both ends so can be forgiven the odd hairy moment

    Bale 7 - frankly I'm prepared to forgive him taking pot-shots even when a pass looks the better option

    Modrich 7 - lost possession a tad too easily early on but got better and better as the game wore on

    Parker 7 - see Modrich

    Sandro 5 - another who looked understandably rusty, was no surprise to see him substituted

    VdV 7 - worked tirelessly, so unlucky not to score just before HT

    Adebayor 8 - MotM see comments above. Best performance from him since the 5-0 against Newcastle

    Subs

    Saha 6 - frustrating at times but carried a threat in front of goal. I struggle to understand the animosity towards him on GG

    Livermore 6 - looked lively enough
     
  4. braineclipse

    braineclipse Barry Daines

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    You don't think I want the title? You don't think all Spurs fans want the title?

    Ok, so you don't rate Enrique either, seems that there are very few defenders you actually rate. And, that in most matches you watch the defenders would generally score noticably lower than midfielders and attackers on average. Seems to me that you're using a different scale for defenders and that someone averaging a 5 from you would actually be someone good enough to play for a top 6/4 team. And that there might be a handful of players in the entire league that might get 7+ ratings regularly.

    I agree that players should be rated on their performances. And I generally try to.

    I find it very hard to believe that one defensive midfielder can make up for so many players being as poor as you say to such an extent.
     
  5. chancer

    chancer Gudni Bergsson

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    I think people are underestimating how scared and shaky we looked for a lot of the first half.
     
  6. GrimsbyYid

    GrimsbyYid Gus Poyet

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    I think, and always have, that Kaboul isn;t good enough to be a starter. If we want to move up a level we need someone better. He's had his best season, but defensively he's not good enough.

    Ekotto too, again, amazing season, very good, but an area we can improve on; well in theory, who that is I don't know.

    Bale didn't have an amazing game, but he has so much ability at any point he can turn it on.

    Adebayor lacks some ability but overall he is absolutely vital to the way we play.

    How Saha is ahead of Defoe blows my fudging mind.

    Walker has so much potential, when people slag him off it makes me want to bite my screen.

    Rafa is incredible and should play every time.

    Parker is immense.
     
  7. Jurgen the German

    Jurgen the German Chris Jones

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    Agree with pretty much all of that. However, if we sign Adebayor, then I believe we will need to sign another striker as well. Adebayor just has too many days where he doesn't look up for it, although he looked up for it today. I'm not sure Adebayor is the answer and I won't be happy if he's our main man next season.
     
  8. Jimmy-g

    Jimmy-g Scott Parker

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    This is about right for me, I thought Parker was immense, well done lads.
     
  9. harr1984

    harr1984 John Lacy

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    Wow, so many people get wound up if they disagree with the rating given of a player(s).

    It's perfectly fine to disagree, but don't make out like you are right and somebody else is wrong. Stop! Hammer time, that's the name of the game....
     
  10. DHSF

    DHSF Les Ferdinand

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    I didnt really see Ade have that great a game. I mean he really should have scored the one on one. Maybe I missed his other contributions

    I thought we played very well as a team. First half was ok but I think harry had kept them tight on the leash and then unleashed them in second half.

    7/10
     
  11. harr1984

    harr1984 John Lacy

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    Kaboul has consistently been our best defender this season, would look even better if he wasn't swapping CB partners every other game because of injuries.....
     
  12. Yiddo

    Yiddo Paul Stalteri

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    To much love for the average Benny.
     
  13. Bale

    Bale Sean Davis

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    All the players deserve a high rating, They all tried there hardest and never gave up.

    Special mentions to Walker,Gallas and Parker.
     
  14. Modrical

    Modrical Phil Gray

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    I thought the spine of our team were excellent, Gallas, Kaboul, Modric and Parker. Not letting Drogba out bully us was key, and of course he won a few headers etc but i thought he was quiet for the majority of the game. Redknapp has been getting a fair bit of stick (unfairly IMO), but he set us up very well yesterday. If we play with that desire, we have a very good chance of getting Champs league. Shame we were so lack lustre against Stoke.

    Spurs fans were excellent, i was in their posh seats and could hear all the chants. Personal favourite was 'he eat what he wants' at Fat Frank. Will try and upload a video if i can be bothered. I'll give an iota of credit to the Chelsea fans too as they were quite loud at times, dare i say better than we are when at home.

    Also managed to get a photo with Ginola which made my day. Smelt of cigarettes if anyone cares, but was very approachable.

    Was a great day for me, free ticket and booze, hammered by 6pm, tucked up in bed by midnight
     
  15. braineclipse

    braineclipse Barry Daines

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    You don't like discussions?

    Quick stat moment (stats from the 4-4-2 app).

    Passes received:

    Walker: 36
    Kaboul: 30
    Gallas: 36
    Ekotto: 53

    VdV: 51
    Sandro: 29
    Parker: 30
    Modric: 53
    Bale: 52

    Ade: 46

    Now, one stat on it's own means very little. But to me it illustrates quite well how important Ekotto is in our buildup play. Without him we would play a lot more long balls and not keep possession as well.
     
  16. diego_maradona

    diego_maradona Steffen Iversen Staff Member

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    Freidel 7
    Walker 7.5
    Kaboul 6.5
    Gallas 7.5
    Ekotto 6.5
    Sandro 7
    Parker 8
    Modric 8
    VdV 7
    Bale 7
    Ade 8

    Saha 7
    Livermore 6.5
     
  17. ArcspacE

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    Brad - 6 - little do

    Walker - 7 - offered good width going forward, covered back well
    Kaboul - 6 - ok
    Gallas - 7 - one massive error which could have cost us dearly but recovered well and had a solid game
    BAE - 5 - disappointing, lack of concentration yet again - weakest link. Shockorama of a player increasingly more often lately. Needs to recover asap since Rose is hardly the quality cover we have

    Sandro - 6.5 - ran hard in the middle
    Parker - 8 - MotM
    VdV - 6.5 - should have burried it 10/10 times, eventually faded
    Modric - 7- much better performance

    Bale - 6 - tried to do it all on his own
    Ade - 7 - worked hard

    Saha - 6.5 - linked up well upfront
    Livermore - no time
     
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  18. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Edgar Davids

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    Love Gallas' leadership, you could see him talking to Parker, VDV and Bale (2 senior players and a World superstar (he really is!)) and demanding an action from them and they clearly respected what he said and were nodding in agreement, great to see. For that alone he should get a high marking (influence on players around him), but I thought he made a few mistakes in his own game on Saturday, he seemed to be bullied a bit by Drogba (no disgrace). Maybe I need to watch again though as noone's mentioned this and his ratings are all above 7.

    Thought we were average in the first half and looked dodgy against the long balls being pumped up to Drogba. 2nd half I thought we were pretty good, it seemed to me like the confidence started coming back. We really should have won that game, all the clear cut chances fell for us, Chelsea's hit the post from a free kick that should never have been, I wish the ref would have the balls to blow the whistle for unsportsmen like conduct.
     

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