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Lucas Moura

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Denmark Spur, 31 Jan 2018.

  1. parklane1

    parklane1 Tommy Harmer

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    You are right he is not a line leader, i think he should play as a number 10 where he has more space to get the ball and run at the opposing team.
     
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    Bullet Jack Jull

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    Plays like a ferret chasing a cricket ball inside a dustbin
     
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    StephenH Les Howe

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    in the dark
     
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    Diamond Lights Sebastien Bassong

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    Lucas was our best performer after Kane since turn of the year. That might sound crazy and it's a helluva lot of slim pickings, but it's true (oh, it's true).

    In the No 10 role he offers something, sure he's limited but in terms of pressing, no one can offer what he can. He deserves a start in No10 behind Kane on Sunday, moreso than Dele.

    Fight me.
     
  5. billyiddo

    billyiddo Terry Dyson Staff Member

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    Strange post, Dele has barely figured this season and won't be match fit in the slightest - don't think anyone would be calling for him to start a cup final out of the blue
     
  6. Jurgen the German

    Jurgen the German Barry Daines

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    Don’t think anyone thinks Moura should have started over Kane. He should have started over Alli who had been below par for over a year whilst Moura was in a purple patch. No sentiment, Moura was just in better form than Alli.
     
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  7. StephenH

    StephenH Les Howe

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    When did Dele last start?
    When did he last play 45+min?
    Dele can’t be match fit.
    So how can anybody assess him?
     
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    afsoc4life Jonathan Woodgate

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    I felt Kane shouldn't have played from the start. The boys that earned that victory versus Ajax should have started in my opinion.
     
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  9. billyiddo

    billyiddo Terry Dyson Staff Member

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    Do you think that you should pick players based on who won the game previous or the ones who you think would give you the best chance of winning the game at hand?

    No room for sentimentality at the top
     
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    afsoc4life Jonathan Woodgate

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    I think both come into play. Funny to me I thought it was sentiment that Kane started. He was rushed back. I may have brought him on in the second half.
     
  11. Bishop

    Bishop Andy Sinton

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    Kane shouldn't have started because he clearly wasn't fit. Who started in his place whether that be Moura, Llorente or a combination of the two was for Poch to decide but Kane should have been used as an impact sub if needed.

    Sentimentality and emotion is why Poch selected Kane. He should have been more objective in that moment.
     
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    billyiddo Terry Dyson Staff Member

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    There are fair arguments to be made for why Kane shouldn't have played or why X or Y should have done instead, but playing well in the previous round is not one of them - you pick the best from what's available and i think the vast majority of managers would pick a returning Kane more often than not.
     
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  13. Bishop

    Bishop Andy Sinton

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    Sensible managers would pick the player who is fit enough to do the job. Kane wasn't as evidenced by the performance. That's where sentimentality and emotion came into the decision. It was not a choice borne of rationality.

    I think most managers who've won CLs and similar big matches would not have picked Kane in those circumstances as there have been many key players over the years who have missed out on finals due to injuries. Those players could also have been rushed back but instead their managers decided to trust their alternatives knowing a half fit player isn't going to do the job.

    Our issue we more we had no decent alternative, if we had one I'm fairly certain Poch would have done the sensible thing and selected them instead. Why we had no decent alternative is another debate entirely but that's the truth of the matter.
     
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    billyiddo Terry Dyson Staff Member

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    Yup
     
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    DTA Alan Hutton

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    The alternatives got us to the final.

    I'm a Poch fan never wanted him sacked at all, but he made mistakes as well, and it's OK to acknowledge those.
     
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    Bishop Andy Sinton

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    Not sure if it wasn't clear but I think he should have picked the alternatives.
     
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    Hotspur75 Louis Saha

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    Back to Moura. I think he is still underrated by fans. I hope and expect him to start tomorrow, partly because I hope he will have the desire to make up for the CL final, but mainly because I think we will need his guile in the middle of the park.
     
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    Caitano Wayne Routledge

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    Moura's defensive contribution in the middle is as good as anyone in the league.
     
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    SteveAWOL Steffen Freund

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    Thought he was our best attacking threat today and flabbergasted that he got subbed o_O
     
  20. parklane1

    parklane1 Tommy Harmer

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    My thoughts as well, he was/is the only player who shows no fear and will run at defenders every chance he gets.
     
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