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Johnny Depp v Amber Heard

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by Lilbaz, 2 May 2022.

  1. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Here is the full audio if anyone wants to listen to it.

     
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    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    You seem to have alot of time and interest invested in this subject
     
  3. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Got a lot of spare time and bored.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    If anyones interested amber heard had a nightmare 2 days. Caught editing photos. Perjuring herself and basically ripped apart. Her defence even gave up their redirect cause she was being awkward and they were in tatters.

    Not over yet, but depp looking favourite to win now. Which is pretty amazing as it's very difficult to prove a negative.
     
  5. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla John Lacy

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    Just read about that, doesn’t seem to be going well for her, but for Depp to get the “win” in courts then it needs to be a slam dunk I think?

    there’s been enough to come out in this case so far that at least public opinion will have changed on Depp and he may get his career back?
     
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    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    Yeh there is no chance he wins regardless because there is no real disproving that he was violent. It seems clear they both were.

    But like you say there might be context to it all, that they were both in a toxic environment
     
  7. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Before it started it would have been very difficult for him to win. But her story is so far opposite to his and so fantastical that it's now a case of who the jury thinks is lying. Which she's been caught out a lot. Including lying to the uk court about donating the divorce settlement to charity. She still has time and only needs to show something that proves that he did sexually abuse her and she could still win though.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Apart from ambers word there so far has been no evidenceso far that johnny was violent.
     
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    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    But they are not ruling on that are they thats already been proven in previous court rulings? One court previously ruled that she was telling the truth, so is the onus in this case not on him to prove without doubt he was not violent?
     
  10. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    The uk trial has no bearing on this one. Although it has come up that amber purjured herself in the uk trial. She lied about donating her divorce settlement to charity. Which was a big part of why she won as it showed she had no financial incentive to lie.

    This is a civil case not criminal. So is based on probability of who the jury (in the uk case judge) thinks is more likely to be telling the truth. There is no reasonable doubt and nothing is proven as such.
     
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    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    Ok, I stand correct, not as invested as you TBF

    Bit of a circus all this really
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    It's crazy. Wasn't interested at all until a couple of weeks ago. But it drags you in. Case still ongoing but it looks like it was all a setup by amber to get a big divorce settlement. She secretly recorded him loads but not once of him abusing her.

    Also a lot about her mental state. As in mental illness. She is scary at times.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Was just watching a lawyer in the us talk about how difficult it is to actually get the money back from people even if they have it. Seems the judgement will only be for that state. If the person that loses doesn't live or work in that state. Then you can't get anything. You'd have to apply to get the judgement recognised in a state where they do. Now for wages you can take some if they earn over a certain amount. But you can't seize property. You can only take a percentage of a sale. Now the person isn't going to sell if all the money goes to you. So you have to negotiate with them what percentage you'd take if they do sell.

    Now in florida, if you are the primary provider in your family, they can't take anything. Hence why trump and others have moved there.
     
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    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    SO in short this is all abit pointless?
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Johnny wants to tell the world his side of the story and be able to work again. For him i doubt the result of the court case is that important. He wants to show the world she's lying. Which he has done to an extent.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Much better day for amber today. Her sister testified. Three of her friends were shown in deposition videos. All saying they saw marks on amber. Her sister saying she actually saw johnny pulling her hair and hitting her although she said amber hit him first. One friend did say though that amber had hit her and depps team did ask whitney about her old boss that she lived with. They didn't go further but i believe she is a rebuttal witness that has a vastly different story to whitney.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    From a very good day from ambers team to a total borefest that probably did more damage than good. It was mostly trying to justify her countersuit of $100m that failed. One of the witnesses was about twitter saying how depps lawyer had called the whole thing a hoax and this lead to social media going against her. So depps team just kept reading the hash tags, justice4johnny amber turd... if the jury didn't know what public opinion was they do now. Depps team will probably move to strike the countersuit next week.
     
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    milo Jack L. Jones

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    milo Jack L. Jones

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    There are shades of Gamergate about the way the far right are using this to radicalise people
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    It isn't the far right. They both have pr teams. Ambers team went for msm. Lots of opinion pieces all mentioning if you don't support amber you are misogynistic. Also depp sued the sun (newscorp) and the op ed was written in the washington post.
    Depps team leaked evidence to what depps old lawyer called internet journalists.

    It has become a sort of battle between where you get your news. Social media or msm.

    Supporters for depp are actually mostly female and across the political spectrum.

    Ambers team really messed up in court the other day. As part of her countersuit she is trying to prove a smear campaign online. She had an expert witness say that after the evidence was leaked online (evidence the court has just heard) the hashtags justice4johnny #amberturd #amberisanabuser exploded online. On the cross depps team got to repeatedly say those terms. Asking is justice4johnny negative and even getting the witness to say he loves justice.
     

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