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Harry Winks

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by elltrev, 27 Jul 2016.

  1. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    Unfortunately we do not have many alternatives. We absolutely need him back.
     
  2. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Michael Carrick

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    Of course, but ....
     
  3. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    Think he will be fine if he is fit.
     
  4. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Cecil Poynton

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    Against a team that will play 100mph blitzkrieg football for the first hour at least he could get badly found out.

    If Winks is to play at all in the final (and I do doubt it) I would imagine it to be as a sub around 70 minutes to come on and start taking control of things as Liverpool tire.
     
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  5. Cochise

    Cochise Michael Carrick

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    I agree with you here. The mental sharpness that is going to be required for that opening hour is going to be of the utmost importance. I'm also leaning towards having Kane on the bench to start tbh, which sounds crazy, but for this game might be the right call.
     
  6. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Cecil Poynton

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    Well, contrary to my Winks point, I cant imagine anything other than Kane starting.

    We have persistently struggled without a focal point up front, and as well as Llorente has done Kane even if half fit is a better player. I think he could be key in us getting a foothold in things.

    Plus its not quite as damaging if he plays up front and is a little off the pace compared to that midfield battle.
     
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    Cochise Michael Carrick

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    Without wishing to waylay this thread too far off topic, my opinion on Kane is that his time out injured coupled with VVD and Matip wanting someone to mark will nullify him. I'd rather have us start with the two pace merchants we have stretching them and at least giving their full backs something to think about before going forward.
     
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  8. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Michael Carrick

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    At the end of the day it will all come down to how complete their recovery has been and how well they are showing up in pre-match training. If they appear less than fully fit I don't see Poch risking them from the kick off.

    But even if they're fully 400% fit it would still be a mistake to expect too much from them because they will not have played a full 90 minutes for months. The most we can expect from them is 65/70 mins because by then they'll be knackered.
     
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    Spur of the moment Michael Carrick

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    The possibility of extra time also comes into it. We will surely need Kane on the pitch at the final whistle so he can take the first pen.
     
  10. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    If fit, both Kane and Winks will start. Tbh I would take my chances if the alternatives would be a slow Wanyama and an off form, slow and reckless Dier or we negate the offensive threats of Dele and Eriksen by playing them deep.
     
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  11. milo

    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    The beauty of Kane is that he's as happy dropping back or pulling wide as he is leading the line. He can create space for others.
     
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  12. Maltese Falcon

    Maltese Falcon Steed Malbranque

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    Not sure I agree with you to have TWO players in the starting lineup coming back after many weeks out. One is a calculated risk; two is reckless... especially against Liverpool's diabolical press. And nobody mentioned neither Dier nor Wanyama
     
  13. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    Who do you play next to Sissoko?
     
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    Maltese Falcon Steed Malbranque

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    Eriksen and Alli with Moura and Son on either side of Harry.

    Both Eriksen and Alli have a great work ethic and will put in the miles, Moura and Son have the legs to keep up with the Liverpool full backs and of course the closing down will be the responsibility of Monsieur Sissoko. Harry will provide the outlet

    My only worry about Harry is that he will not make pens if it ends up even...
     
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    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    We have seen that playing Alli deep stifles him offensively. Eriksen's natural instincts are higher up the pitch. I still think it is better to play winks alongside Sissoko. Winks is young, talented and imo can cope with the big occasion. I think he will be fine especially if the team help out.
     
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    yiddo37 Bobby Zamora

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    If anywhere near full fitness I think Poch will play Winks alongside Sissoko, it's our best option for a midfield 2 at the moment.
     
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    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    I agree with this, he is not the same player when he plays deep and someone as good as he is at running from behind the strikers should be left to play his own game.
     
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    Bedfordspurs Nayim

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    They hate playing against him as he pulls them out of position
    You could see it for Lucas’s goal at Anfield
     
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    milo Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    If he's fit, he plays. I am sure that Poch sees it the same.
     
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  20. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Nayim

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    You have to play a fully fit Kane. He is the best striker in the world
     
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