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Harry Winks

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by elltrev, 27 Jul 2016.

  1. P.D.

    P.D. Jermaine Jenas

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    Could always sign Ronaldo if we need another HG player, think he joined Utd at 17.
     
  2. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Jimmy McCormick

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    MKSpur Simon Davies

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    Did he have an injury confirmed then?
     
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    Raziel Jimmy Neighbour

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    Nothing confirmed, probably a knock, he played first preseason game, then was on skywalk and was initially selected for England.
     
  5. Yiddo

    Yiddo Alf Ramsey

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    Something tells me Skip was the wrong one sent out on loan.
     
  6. Bishop

    Bishop Ronnie Rosenthal

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    You could argue he's sorry if match fitness but even when he's fit he plays the same. He's just mediocre.
     
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  7. Yiddo

    Yiddo Alf Ramsey

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    He gets protected to much on here because he is one of our own. He has had half a good season and that is it. Not good enough and other English players of a similar age at other clubs are miles ahead of him.
     
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  8. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Pedro Mendes

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    A poor man’s Ray Wilkins.
     
  9. spurspinter1

    spurspinter1 Gerry Armstrong

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    I think everyone knows, there's just nothing to gain from laying in to him.

    Like today if Winks on a vibe passing wise he doesn't offer enough other than just running around a bit. If we have a pairing of PEH and Winks we are in trouble as it is never going to be expansive progressive football with that spine. .
     
  10. yiddo37

    yiddo37 Ilie Dumitrescu

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    He has gone backwards literally. I've seen him drive forward with the ball beating 1 or 2 on the way before threading the ball to our front 3 behind Kane, did it quite a few times early in his career. Now whether under instruction or not, he just passes safe and usually stands his ground. Does nothing to find space, get the ball and get moves really going, it's all so pedestrian.
     
  11. elltrev

    elltrev Niko Kranjcar

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    Yup, don't know what's happened to him. Look at the two videos in the very first post of this thread, around the time he made his debut - definitely didn't look anywhere near as safe and conservative back then. It's really weird.
     
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    SteveAWOL Jimmy McCormick

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    Hopefully just rustiness after his injury layoff, as this was Vinny Sideways levels of turgid today...

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    parklane1 Les Howe

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    He was poor today indeed ( and i say that as a fan of his) however they all were and we looked as bad as i have seen for a while. We seriously lack any creativity from the middle of the pitch.
     
  14. Modric THFC

    Modric THFC Chris Perry

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    A good squad player that is essentially in the squad for free.
    Takes up one of the 4 club trained spots for Europe along with Rose and Kane.
    The issue is starting him when he hasn't played since the Ipswich friendly 3 full weeks ago.
    He then disappeared without any explanation including pulling out of the England squad.
     
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    Daisuk Chris Perry

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    Doing the little Modric swivel and finding a good pass forwards was his trademark in the early days. Now he just looks slow and laboured, and keeps doing absolutely zilch when in possession. Looks like his confidence is shot or something. He just needs to dare more, take more chances, trust his abilities.
     
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    Bullet Paul Walsh

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    Absolutely this. He always shirks responsibility and just says "Not me, I ain't doing it, you have it" and lays it backwards. Bizarre that a talented player has regressed to such an extent, seems like he is psychologically damaged, way too scared to actually try things and make a difference.
     
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    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    Someone posted this earlier to show something different but look at the lack of options there just before 30 minutes...
    toby is telling him to pass backwards as there is no one up front coming for it
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  18. elltrev

    elltrev Niko Kranjcar

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    It was me who posted it, and in fairness the full video clip also shows that Winks is too conservative:
     

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    elltrev Niko Kranjcar

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    Hmmm not sure if you can embed video files so they can be streamed rather than downloaded?

    For those who can't be bothered to download the clip, these images ilustrate the point I'm referring to - where if Winks had more balls / awareness he could take this ball on the half-turn between the two Everton players and look forward, but instead plays it straight back to Toby without once looking over his shoulder:

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    Bedfordspurs Steve Sedgley

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    Can’t play it
    It did watch it back again on MOTD and has it on repeat today in the background whilst working... the gap when we took Dele off was massive and Made it so easy for them to play. The lack of players showing for midfield when we have them ball is horrendous
     

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